From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: "Longpeng(Mike)" <longpeng2@huawei.com>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
yechuan@huawei.com, xieyongji@bytedance.com,
arei.gonglei@huawei.com, parav@nvidia.com, sgarzare@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] vhost-vdpa-net: add vhost-vdpa-net host device support
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:16:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YbHJivhCDvKo4eB0@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211208052010.1719-1-longpeng2@huawei.com>
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On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 01:20:10PM +0800, Longpeng(Mike) wrote:
> From: Longpeng <longpeng2@huawei.com>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> This patch introduces vhost-vdpa-net device, which is inspired
> by vhost-user-blk and the proposal of vhost-vdpa-blk device [1].
>
> I've tested this patch on Huawei's offload card:
> ./x86_64-softmmu/qemu-system-x86_64 \
> -device vhost-vdpa-net-pci,vdpa-dev=/dev/vhost-vdpa-0
>
> For virtio hardware offloading, the most important requirement for us
> is to support live migration between offloading cards from different
> vendors, the combination of netdev and virtio-net seems too heavy, we
> prefer a lightweight way.
>
> Maybe we could support both in the future ? Such as:
>
> * Lightweight
> Net: vhost-vdpa-net
> Storage: vhost-vdpa-blk
>
> * Heavy but more powerful
> Net: netdev + virtio-net + vhost-vdpa
> Storage: bdrv + virtio-blk + vhost-vdpa
>
> [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg797569.html
Stefano presented a plan for vdpa-blk at KVM Forum 2021:
https://kvmforum2021.sched.com/event/ke3a/vdpa-blk-unified-hardware-and-software-offload-for-virtio-blk-stefano-garzarella-red-hat
It's closer to today's virtio-net + vhost-net approach than the
vhost-vdpa-blk device you have mentioned. The idea is to treat vDPA as
an offload feature rather than a completely separate code path that
needs to be maintained and tested. That way QEMU's block layer features
and live migration work with vDPA devices and re-use the virtio-blk
code. The key functionality that has not been implemented yet is a "fast
path" mechanism that allows the QEMU virtio-blk device's virtqueue to be
offloaded to vDPA.
The unified vdpa-blk architecture should deliver the same performance
as the vhost-vdpa-blk device you mentioned but with more features, so I
wonder what aspects of the vhost-vdpa-blk idea are important to you?
QEMU already has vhost-user-blk, which takes a similar approach as the
vhost-vdpa-blk device you are proposing. I'm not against the
vhost-vdpa-blk approach in priciple, but would like to understand your
requirements and see if there is a way to collaborate on one vdpa-blk
implementation instead of dividing our efforts between two.
Stefan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-09 9:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-08 5:20 [RFC] vhost-vdpa-net: add vhost-vdpa-net host device support Longpeng(Mike) via
2021-12-08 6:27 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-11 5:23 ` longpeng2--- via
2021-12-13 3:23 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-14 0:15 ` longpeng2--- via
2021-12-08 19:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-11 2:43 ` longpeng2--- via
2021-12-09 9:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2021-12-09 15:55 ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-12-11 4:11 ` longpeng2--- via
2021-12-13 11:10 ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-12-13 15:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-12-14 1:44 ` longpeng2--- via
2021-12-14 13:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-12-11 3:00 ` longpeng2--- via
2021-12-12 9:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-13 2:47 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-13 10:58 ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-12-13 15:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-12-14 2:22 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-14 13:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-12-15 3:18 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-15 10:07 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-12-16 3:01 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-16 9:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-12-17 4:26 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-17 8:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-12-20 2:48 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-20 8:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-12-20 9:17 ` longpeng2--- via
2021-12-20 14:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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