From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Damien Hedde" <damien.hedde@greensocs.com>,
"Mark Burton" <mark.burton@greensocs.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Mirela Grujic" <mirela.grujic@greensocs.com>,
"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Redesign of QEMU startup & initial configuration
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 18:07:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YbeL7EjoTtrUrGa2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16cd5683-4f97-d24c-dd19-24febcab7ba8@redhat.com>
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 06:37:44PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 12/13/21 16:28, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > Would you object to me expanding the CLI here to the point where I think
> > we can deprecate the old binary?
> >
> > If yes, why?
>
> Yes, for two reasons.
>
> First, because there will be usually differences between the command lines
> as mentioned elsewhere in the thread. qemu-system-* is a good name, but one
> that is already taken by 15 years of docs using the existing command line.
T
Lets pick naming to make it clearer who/what each binary is targetted
towards. e.g.
- /usr/bin/qemu-buildvm-$TARGET for the low level binary that just
speaks QMP on stdio / passed in pre-opened socket, targetted
at mgmt apps and needs a series of commands to build a VM up
from scratch
- /usr/bin/qemu (or /usr/bin/qemu-vm) - for a high level binary that
targets humans and uses a templating system to expose a friendly
simple config, that internally invokes whichever target specific
/usr/bin/qemu-buildvm-$TARGET is implied, plus any other vhost-user
backends, or whatever other helper processes it needs
> Second, because a command line is really hard to get right as complexity
> increases. QMP is the way to go to get as clean as possible a configuration
> mechanism. There *will* be a second set of warts layered on top of the
> above code, and I don't want that.
Turning the high level / short config into a general purpose templating
problem, strictly separated from the low level binary using QMP, means
gives us a more flexible way to live with the warts IMHO.
Regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-13 18:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-02 6:57 Redesign of QEMU startup & initial configuration Markus Armbruster
2021-12-09 19:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-09 20:01 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-09 20:28 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-10 8:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-10 11:25 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-10 14:15 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-10 14:26 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-10 14:42 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-10 15:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-10 15:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-10 15:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-13 15:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-13 17:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-13 17:59 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-13 20:22 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-14 13:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-14 13:11 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-14 13:21 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-14 13:36 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-14 13:48 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-14 14:42 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-14 14:56 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-14 15:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-14 15:14 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-10 13:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-10 15:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-13 15:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-13 17:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-13 18:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2021-12-13 18:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-13 18:53 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-14 7:09 ` Meeting today? Mark Burton
2021-12-14 11:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-14 11:39 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-14 12:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-14 14:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-01-04 9:29 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2022-01-06 11:21 ` "Startup" meeting (was Re: Meeting today?) Mark Burton
2022-01-06 11:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-01-11 10:20 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2022-01-11 10:22 ` Mark Burton
2022-01-17 17:13 ` Kevin Wolf
2022-01-17 19:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-01-23 20:49 ` Mark Burton
2022-01-25 8:50 ` Juan Quintela
2022-01-25 10:45 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
2022-01-25 10:58 ` Juan Quintela
2022-02-08 11:52 ` Mark Burton
2022-02-08 12:35 ` Juan Quintela
2022-01-11 10:28 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-15 18:46 ` Redesign of QEMU startup & initial configuration Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-15 18:50 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-14 11:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-14 13:00 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-14 14:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-15 20:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-15 20:14 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-16 10:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-16 15:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-16 15:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-16 16:00 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-16 16:15 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-12-16 16:27 ` Mark Burton
2021-12-13 10:51 ` Damien Hedde
2021-12-13 15:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-01-04 12:40 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2022-01-13 16:10 ` Markus Armbruster
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