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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Hyman Huang <huangy81@chinatelecom.cn>
Cc: "Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 2/3] cpu-throttle: implement virtual CPU throttle
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 11:35:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YeDvckGNTYq7OZTO@xz-m1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38d0cc91-2995-2d73-d917-e5e1fc4e5206@chinatelecom.cn>

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 09:30:39AM +0800, Hyman Huang wrote:
> 
> 
> 在 2022/1/14 0:22, Markus Armbruster 写道:
> > Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
> > 
> > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 12:36:40AM +0800, Hyman Huang wrote:
> > > > > > +struct {
> > > > > > +    DirtyLimitState *states;
> > > > > > +    int max_cpus;
> > > > > > +    unsigned long *bmap; /* running thread bitmap */
> > > > > > +    unsigned long nr;
> > > > > > +    QemuThread thread;
> > > > > > +} *dirtylimit_state;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +static bool dirtylimit_quit = true;
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again, I think "quit" is not a good wording to show "whether dirtylimit is in
> > > > > service".  How about "dirtylimit_global_enabled"?
> > > > > 
> > > > > You can actually use "dirtylimit_state" to show whether it's enabled already
> > > > > (then drop the global value) since it's a pointer.  It shouldn't need to be
> > > > > init-once-for-all, but we can alloc the strucuture wAhen dirty limit enabled
> > > > > globally, and destroy it (and reset it to NULL) when globally disabled.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Then "whether it's enabled" is simply to check "!!dirtylimit_state" under BQL.
> > > > Yes, checking pointer is fairly straightforword, but since dirtylimit thread
> > > > also access the dirtylimit_state when doing the limit, if we free
> > > > dirtylimit_state after last limited vcpu be canceled, dirtylimit thread
> > > > would crash when reference null pointer. And this method turn out to
> > > > introduce a mutex lock to protect dirtylimit_state, comparing with qatomic
> > > > operation, which is better ?
> > > 
> > > I don't see much difference here on using either atomic or mutex, because it's
> > > not a hot path.
> > 
> > Quick interjection without having bothered to understand the details:
> > correct use of atomics and memory barriers is *much* harder than correct
> > use of locks.  Stick to locks unless you *know* they impair performance

Yong,

Just a heads up - You seem to have replied something but there's really nothing
I saw... it happened multiple times, so I hope you didn't miss it by sending
something empty.

I agree with Markus, and that's also what I wanted to express too (it's not a
perf critical path, so we don't necessarily need to use atomics; obviously I
failed again on using English to express myself.. :).  But I don't urge it if
the atomics works pretty simple and well.  I think I'll read the atomic version
you posted first and I'll comment again there.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-14  3:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-14 11:07 [PATCH v10 0/3] support dirty restraint on vCPU huangy81
2021-12-14 11:07 ` [PATCH v10 1/3] migration/dirtyrate: implement vCPU dirtyrate calculation periodically huangy81
2021-12-23 11:12   ` Peter Xu
2021-12-26 15:58     ` Hyman
2021-12-30  5:01     ` Hyman Huang
2021-12-30  6:34       ` Peter Xu
2021-12-14 11:07 ` [PATCH v10 2/3] cpu-throttle: implement virtual CPU throttle huangy81
2021-12-15  7:15   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-15  7:40     ` Hyman Huang
2021-12-24  5:12   ` Peter Xu
2021-12-30 16:36     ` Hyman Huang
2022-01-04  2:32       ` Peter Xu
2022-01-04  3:27         ` Hyman Huang
2022-01-13 16:22         ` Markus Armbruster
2022-01-14  1:30           ` Hyman Huang
2022-01-14  3:35             ` Peter Xu [this message]
2021-12-14 11:07 ` [PATCH v10 3/3] cpus-common: implement dirty page limit on virtual CPU huangy81
2021-12-15  7:37   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-15  7:56     ` Hyman Huang
2021-12-15  8:09       ` Peter Xu
2021-12-15  8:29         ` Hyman Huang
2021-12-15 10:16           ` Hyman Huang
2021-12-15 13:41         ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-16  6:22           ` Peter Xu
2021-12-16  9:16             ` Hyman Huang
2021-12-16 10:23               ` Markus Armbruster
2021-12-24  5:16                 ` Peter Xu
2021-12-24  5:14   ` Peter Xu
2021-12-26 16:00     ` Hyman
2021-12-24  5:17 ` [PATCH v10 0/3] support dirty restraint on vCPU Peter Xu

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