From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: eduardo@habkost.net, "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
mst@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86: Switch to q35 as the default machine type
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 17:40:44 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yg03HB5KHGYWyI0J@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <db583712-cd6e-d67d-ad98-989a9867499a@redhat.com>
* Thomas Huth (thuth@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 12.01, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Gerd Hoffmann (kraxel@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > > Given the semantic differences from 'i440fx', changing the default
> > > > machine type has effects that are equivalent to breaking command
> > > > line syntax compatibility, which is something we've always tried
> > > > to avoid.
> > >
> > > And if we are fine breaking backward compatibility I'd rather *not* pick
> > > a default, effectively making -M $something mandatory, similar to arm.
> >
> > Oh, that's probably easy to do; what are other peoples thoughts on
> > that?
>
> I agree with Gerd. Getting rid of a default machine on x86 is likely better
> than silently changing it to q35. But I'd maybe say that this should go
> through the deprecation process first?
So just adding something like the following under 'System emulator
machines':
x86 default machine type
------------------------
x86 currently defaults to the very old ```pc``` machine type
which is based on the very old ```i440f``` chipset. This default
will be removed and the user will be required to specify a machine
type explicitly using -M; users are encouraged to switch to the
not quite as old ```q35``` machine types.
(This option is going to take a lot more work switching all the
test cases over; in my world here I'd only changed the tests that broke
on q35, now everything is going to need to specify a type).
Dave
> Thomas
>
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-16 17:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-15 16:25 [PATCH 0/3] x86: Switch over to q35 as the default machine type Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2022-02-15 16:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] tests/x86: Use 'pc' machine type for old hardware tests Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2022-02-17 8:04 ` Thomas Huth
2022-02-17 8:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-15 16:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] tests/x86: Use 'pc' machine type for hotplug tests Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2022-02-17 8:09 ` Thomas Huth
2022-02-17 8:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-15 16:25 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86: Switch to q35 as the default machine type Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2022-02-15 18:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-02-15 18:29 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-02-16 10:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-02-16 11:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-02-16 11:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-02-16 11:24 ` Thomas Huth
2022-02-16 17:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2022-02-16 17:48 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-02-16 17:57 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-02-17 7:46 ` Thomas Huth
2022-02-17 7:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-17 9:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-02-17 9:43 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-02-17 7:57 ` Thomas Huth
2022-02-17 8:08 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-02-17 8:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-17 9:16 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-02-17 9:35 ` Igor Mammedov
2022-02-17 9:19 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2022-02-15 16:25 ` [PATCH 0/3] x86: Switch over " Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2022-02-15 16:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] tests/x86: Use 'pc' machine type for old hardware tests Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2022-02-15 16:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] tests/x86: Use 'pc' machine type for hotplug tests Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2022-02-15 16:25 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86: Switch to q35 as the default machine type Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
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