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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "John Snow" <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Hanna Reitz" <hreitz@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>, "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	"Beraldo Leal" <bleal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] tests: run python tests under the build/tests/venv environment
Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 11:29:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yn4y9BorEDzOLhFH@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yn4YS1FpgtCZMMx6@redhat.com>

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 09:35:23AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 08:06:00PM -0400, John Snow wrote:
> > RFC: This is a very early, crude attempt at switching over to an
> > external Python package dependency for QMP. This series does not
> > actually make the switch in and of itself, but instead just switches to
> > the paradigm of using a venv in general to install the QEMU python
> > packages instead of using PYTHONPATH to load them from the source tree.
> > 
> > (By installing the package, we can process dependencies.)
> > 
> > I'm sending it to the list so I can show you some of what's ugly so far
> > and my notes on how I might make it less ugly.
> > 
> > (1) This doesn't trigger venv creation *from* iotests, it merely prints
> > a friendly error message if "make check-venv" has not been run
> > first. Not the greatest.
> 
> So if we run the sequence
> 
>   mkdir build
>   cd build
>   ../configure
>   make
>   ./tests/qemu-iotests/check 001
> 
> It won't work anymore, until we 'make check-venv' (or simply
> 'make check') ?
> 
> I'm somewhat inclined to say that venv should be created
> unconditionally by default. ie a plain 'make' should always
> everything needed to be able to invoke the tests directly.
> 
> > (2) This isn't acceptable for SRPM builds, because it uses PyPI to fetch
> > packages just-in-time. My thought is to use an environment variable like
> > QEMU_CHECK_NO_INTERNET that changes the behavior of the venv setup
> > process. We can use "--system-site-packages" as an argument to venv
> > creation and "--no-index" as an argument to pip installation to achieve
> > good behavior in SRPM building scenarios. It'd be up to the spec-writer
> > to opt into that behavior.
> 
> I think I'd expect --system-site-packages to be the default behaviour.
> We expect QEMU to be compatible with the packages available in the
> distros that we're targetting. So if the dev has the python packages
> installed from their distro, we should be using them preferentially.
> 
> This is similar to how we bundle slirp/capstone/etc, but will
> preferentially use the distro version if it is available.

AFAICT from testing it, when '--system-site-packages' is set
for the venv, then 'pip install' appears to end up being a
no-op if the package is already present in the host, but
installs it if missing.

IOW, if we default to --system-site-packages, but still
also run 'pip install', we should "do the right thing".
It'll use any  distro packages that are available, and
augment with stuff from pip. In the no-op case, pip will
still try to consult the pipy servers to fetch version
info IIUC, so we need to be able to stop that. So I'd
suggest a  --python-env arg taking three values

 * "auto" (the default) - add --system-site-packages, but
   also run 'pip install'. Good for developers day-to-day

 * "system" - add --system-site-packages but never run
   'pip install'.  Good for formal package builds.

 * "pip"  - don't add --system-site-packages, always run
   'pip install'. Good for testing compatibility with
   bleeding edge python versions, or if explicit full
   independance from host python install is desired.

With regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-13 10:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-13  0:06 [RFC PATCH 0/9] tests: run python tests under the build/tests/venv environment John Snow
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] python: update for mypy 0.950 John Snow
2022-05-13  8:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 14:09     ` John Snow
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] tests: add "TESTS_PYTHON" variable to Makefile John Snow
2022-05-13  8:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] tests: install "qemu" namespace package into venv John Snow
2022-05-13  8:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 14:01     ` John Snow
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] tests: silence pip upgrade warnings during venv creation John Snow
2022-05-13  8:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 14:02     ` John Snow
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] tests: use tests/venv to run basevm.py-based scripts John Snow
2022-05-13  8:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] tests: add check-venv as a dependency of check and check-block John Snow
2022-05-13  8:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 14:12     ` John Snow
2022-05-13 15:34       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 16:08         ` John Snow
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] tests: add check-venv to build-tcg-disabled CI recipe John Snow
2022-05-13  8:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] iotests: fix source directory location John Snow
2022-05-13  8:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] iotests: use tests/venv for running tests John Snow
2022-05-13  8:38   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 14:38     ` John Snow
2022-05-13 15:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 16:00         ` John Snow
2022-05-14 15:55         ` John Snow
2022-05-16  7:41           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-17 23:51             ` John Snow
2022-05-18 10:38               ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13  8:35 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] tests: run python tests under the build/tests/venv environment Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-13  9:45   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 10:29   ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2022-05-13 15:55     ` John Snow
2022-05-13 16:07       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-13 16:49         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 19:09           ` John Snow
2022-05-13 12:57   ` Kevin Wolf
2022-05-13 15:25   ` John Snow
2022-05-13 10:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-13 15:39   ` John Snow
2022-05-13 16:07     ` Paolo Bonzini

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