From: Klaus Jensen <its@irrelevant.dk>
To: John Levon <levon@movementarian.org>
Cc: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
Jinhao Fan <fanjinhao21s@ict.ac.cn>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] hw/nvme: Implement shadow doorbell buffer support
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2022 19:27:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YqItnbgtw7BNPBZH@apples> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YqIXIiQr+dpksBh6@movementarian.org>
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On Jun 9 16:52, John Levon wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 08:29:30AM -0600, Keith Busch wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 08, 2022 at 10:55:30PM +0200, Klaus Jensen wrote:
> > >
> > > Keith, is this a bug in the kernel? If the code here would expect the
> > > doorbell buffer to be updated for the admin queue as well, would we
> > > break?
> >
> > The admin queue has to be created before db buffer can be set up, so we can't
> > rely on it. And this is a performance feature. Admin commands have never been
> > considered performant, so we decided not to consider it though the spec allows
> > it.
It's not really a question of whether or not the spec *allows* it. If
our device chooses to be compliant here, then it will read invalid
doorbell values if drivers doesnt update the admin doorbell buffer.
>
> It's not just unnecessary, but enabling shadow doorbells on admin queues will
> actively break device implementations (such as SPDK), which have had to presume
> that driver implementations don't use shadow doorbells for the admin queue.
>
I'm ok with following the concensus here, but we all agree that this is
a blatant spec violation that ended up manifesting itself down the
stack, right?
So... if QEMU wants to be compliant here, I guess we could ask the
kernel to introduce a quirk for *compliant* controllers. Now, THAT would
be a first! Not sure if I am being serious or not here ;)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-09 19:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-08 1:36 [PATCH 0/2] hw/nvme: Add shadow doorbell buffer support Jinhao Fan
2022-06-08 1:36 ` [PATCH 1/2] hw/nvme: Implement " Jinhao Fan
2022-06-08 20:55 ` Klaus Jensen
2022-06-09 1:49 ` Jinhao Fan
2022-06-09 14:29 ` Keith Busch
2022-06-09 15:52 ` John Levon
2022-06-09 17:27 ` Klaus Jensen [this message]
2022-06-09 17:50 ` John Levon
2022-06-12 11:40 ` Jinhao Fan
2022-06-13 21:15 ` Keith Busch
2022-06-14 7:24 ` Jinhao Fan
2022-06-14 15:41 ` Keith Busch
2022-06-15 3:58 ` Jinhao Fan
2022-06-15 9:38 ` Klaus Jensen
2022-06-15 14:52 ` Jinhao Fan
2022-06-15 8:48 ` Klaus Jensen
2022-06-15 9:07 ` John Levon
2022-06-15 9:33 ` Klaus Jensen
2022-06-15 10:11 ` John Levon
2022-06-15 11:22 ` Jinhao Fan
2022-06-15 11:45 ` John Levon
2022-06-08 1:36 ` [PATCH 2/2] hw/nvme: Add trace events for shadow doorbell buffer Jinhao Fan
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