From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hw/arm/virt: dt: add rng-seed property
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 13:26:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yrw2+X6Pi8qlTo2d@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878rpfixfh.fsf@linaro.org>
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 11:18:23AM +0100, Alex Bennée wrote:
>
> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
>
> > On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 19:45, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/27/22, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
> >> > On 6/27/22, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 at 17:07, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> In 60592cfed2 ("hw/arm/virt: dt: add kaslr-seed property"), the
> >> >>> kaslr-seed property was added, but the equally as important rng-seed
> >> >>> property was forgotten about, which has identical semantics for a
> >> >>> similar purpose. This commit implements it in exactly the same way as
> >> >>> kaslr-seed.
> >> >>
> >> >> Not an objection, since if this is what the dtb spec says we need
> >> >> to provide then I guess we need to provide it, but:
> >> >> Why do we need to give the kernel two separate random seeds?
> >> >> Isn't one sufficient for the kernel to seed its RNG and generate
> >> >> whatever randomness it needs for whatever purposes it wants it?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Seems a bit silly to me too. `rng-seed` alone ought to be sufficient.
> >> > After the kernel calls add_bootloader_randomness() on it,
> >> > get_random_long() can be used for kaslr'ing and everything else too.
> >> > So I'm not sure what's up, but here we are. Maybe down the line I'll
> >> > look into the details and formulate a plan to remove `kaslr-seed` if
> >> > my supposition is correct.
>
> Sorry now I've had my coffee and read properly I see you are already
> aware of kaslr-seed. However my point about suppression would still
> stand because for the secure boot flow you need checksum-able DTBs.
Please read the patch. Maybe take a sip of coffee first. There's a knob
for this too.
The code is exactly the same for kaslr-seed and rng-seed. Everytime
there's some kaslr-seed thing, there is now the same rng-seed thing.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-29 11:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-27 16:07 [PATCH] hw/arm/virt: dt: add rng-seed property Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-27 16:12 ` Peter Maydell
2022-06-27 16:36 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-28 18:45 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 9:37 ` Peter Maydell
2022-06-29 10:15 ` Alex Bennée
2022-06-29 10:18 ` Alex Bennée
2022-06-29 11:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-06-29 15:24 ` Alex Bennée
2022-06-29 15:55 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30 9:15 ` Peter Maydell
2022-06-30 10:22 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-04 14:42 ` Peter Maydell
2022-07-05 0:45 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
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