From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>,
Eric Auger <eauger@redhat.com>,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] arm: enable MTE for QEMU + kvm
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 16:28:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YsxBh3bJmbF8MvsJ@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7xv660k.fsf@redhat.com>
* Cornelia Huck (cohuck@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11 2022, "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > * Cornelia Huck (cohuck@redhat.com) wrote:
> >> For kvm, mte stays off by default; this is because migration is not yet
> >> supported (postcopy will need an extension of the kernel interface, possibly
> >> an extension of the userfaultfd interface), and turning on mte will add a
> >> migration blocker.
> >
> > My assumption was that a normal migration would need something as well
> > to retrieve and place the MTE flags; albeit not atomically.
>
> There's KVM_ARM_MTE_COPY_TAGS, which should be sufficient to move tags
> around for normal migration.
>
> >
> >> My biggest question going forward is actually concerning migration; I gather
> >> that we should not bother adding something unless postcopy is working as well?
> >
> > I don't think that restriction is fair on you; just make sure
> > postcopy_ram_supported_by_host gains an arch call and fails cleanly;
> > that way if anyone tries to enable postcopy they'll find out with a
> > clean fail.
>
> Ok, if simply fencing off postcopy is fine, we can try to move forward
> with what we have now. The original attempt at
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/881871e8394fa18a656dfb105d42e6099335c721.1615972140.git.haibo.xu@linaro.org/
> hooked itself directly into common code; maybe we should rather copy the
> approach used for s390 storage keys (extra "device") instead?
I don't understand how a separate device would keep the idea of page
changed flags coherent with the main RAM that the tags correspond to.
Dave
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-11 15:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-07 16:16 [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] arm: enable MTE for QEMU + kvm Cornelia Huck
2022-07-07 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/2] arm/kvm: add support for MTE Cornelia Huck
2022-07-07 16:16 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/2] qtests/arm: add some mte tests Cornelia Huck
2022-07-09 2:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] arm: enable MTE for QEMU + kvm Richard Henderson
2022-07-11 13:24 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-07-11 13:39 ` Peter Maydell
2022-07-11 14:26 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-07-11 14:56 ` Cornelia Huck
2022-07-11 15:30 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-07-11 13:55 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-07-11 15:08 ` Cornelia Huck
2022-07-11 15:28 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
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