From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: "Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Camilla Conte" <cconte@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PULL 15/42] tests/functional: enable pre-emptive caching of assets
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 09:58:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0g-xPTSrBHQUVQF@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <340ed154-86d8-45da-bc81-5e1ebb8af8f4@redhat.com>
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 10:54:43AM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 27/11/2024 19.02, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > On 11/27/24 00:29, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > > On 26/11/2024 23.54, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > > > On 11/26/24 11:52, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > > > > I think we want to continue to maek failing downloads as
> > > > > test failures, otherwise we'll never notice when an asset is
> > > > > not available from the internet anymore (since SKIPs just
> > > > > get ignored).
> > > >
> > > > I disagree. Download failures are not rare.
> > >
> > > That's not what I said / meant. Sure, servers can have hiccups and
> > > downloads can fail, but that's what we have the cache for. So having
> > > a working cache is essential.
> > >
> > > OTOH, if you simply mark tests as SKIP if the download fail, we'll
> > > likely miss if an asset vanishes completely, since some people
> > > already have it in their cache and the remaining people will likely
> > > just ignore skipped tests.
> > If the cache is populated, we will *not* miss if an asset vanishes,
> > because we won't ever try the URL.
>
> Well, we'll notice it as soon as people run the tests that don't have the
> asset in their cache yet.
We could make the cache validation logic do a "HEAD" request to
detect if the asset still exists, and fail on 404 even if we have
asset cached. The "HEAD" request should be generally fast given
it only grabs headers, no payload, unless the server is completely
DOSd.
> > If the cache is unpopulated, and the download fails, then we cannot run
> > the test. Indicating FAIL is *useless* because there's nothing that we
> > can do about it, and we also skip additional tests that CI could be
> > running.
>
> Thinking about it for a little bit longer, I think we might rather want to
> distinguish the different failures that can occur during download. If we get
> a 404 error, it means that the asset has completely vanished and thus the
> test is broken, i.e. that's the case when we want to have a real error, I
> think.
>
> But if the server is just not responding or gives a 5xx (like 503 or 504)
> server error, the failure is likely just a temporary one and we should skip
> the test instead. Does that sound acceptable to you? If so, I can look into
> creating a patch for this.
>
> Thomas
>
With regards,
Daniel
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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-04 10:38 [PULL 00/42] Introduce new functional test framework Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 01/42] tests/avocado: machine aarch64: standardize location and RO access Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 02/42] tests/avocado/boot_xen.py: fetch kernel during test setUp() Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 03/42] tests/avocado/machine_aarch64_sbsaref.py: allow for rw usage of image Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 04/42] Bump avocado to 103.0 Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 05/42] tests/avocado/avocado_qemu: Fix the "from" statements in linuxtest.py Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 06/42] tests/avocado/boot_linux_console: Remove the s390x subtest Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 07/42] python: Install pycotap in our venv if necessary Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 08/42] tests/functional: Add base classes for the upcoming pytest-based tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 09/42] tests/functional: Set up logging Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 10/42] tests/Makefile.include: Increase the level of indentation in the help text Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 11/42] tests/functional: Prepare the meson build system for the functional tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 12/42] tests/functional: Convert simple avocado tests into standalone python tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 13/42] tests/functional: Convert avocado tests that just need a small adjustment Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 14/42] tests/functional: add a module for handling asset download & caching Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 15/42] tests/functional: enable pre-emptive caching of assets Thomas Huth
2024-11-26 16:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-11-26 16:45 ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-26 17:26 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-26 17:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-26 17:46 ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-26 17:52 ` Thomas Huth
2024-11-26 17:56 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-26 21:17 ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-26 22:54 ` Richard Henderson
2024-11-27 6:29 ` Thomas Huth
2024-11-27 18:02 ` Richard Henderson
2024-11-28 9:54 ` Thomas Huth
2024-11-28 9:58 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-11-27 9:06 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-27 18:31 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-11-28 9:34 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-28 17:25 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-11-28 17:57 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 16/42] tests/functional: Allow asset downloading with concurrent threads Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 17/42] tests/functional: Convert some tests that download files via fetch_asset() Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 18/42] tests/functional: Add a function for extracting files from an archive Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 19/42] tests/functional: Convert some avocado tests that needed avocado.utils.archive Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 20/42] tests/functional: Convert the s390x avocado tests into standalone tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 21/42] tests/functional: Convert the x86_cpu_model_versions test Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 22/42] tests/functional: Convert the microblaze avocado tests into standalone tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 23/42] tests/functional: Convert the virtio_gpu avocado test into a standalone test Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 24/42] tests/functional: Convert most ppc avocado tests into standalone tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 25/42] tests/functional: Convert the ppc_amiga avocado test into a standalone test Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 26/42] tests/functional: Convert the ppc_hv " Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 27/42] tests/functional: Convert the m68k nextcube test with tesseract Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 28/42] tests/functional: Convert the acpi-bits test into a standalone test Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 29/42] tests/functional: Convert the rx_gdbsim avocado " Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 30/42] tests/functional: Convert the linux_initrd " Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 31/42] tests/functional: Convert ARM Integrator/CP avocado tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 32/42] tests/functional: Convert Aarch64 SBSA-Ref " Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 33/42] tests/functional: Convert Aarch64 Virt machine " Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 34/42] tests/functional: Convert mips64el Fuloong2e avocado test (1/2) Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 35/42] tests/functional: Add QemuUserTest class Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 36/42] tests/functional: Convert ARM bFLT linux-user avocado test Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 37/42] tests/avocado: Remove unused QemuUserTest class Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 38/42] gitlab-ci: Add "check-functional" to the build tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 39/42] docs/devel: Split testing docs from the build docs and move to separate folder Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 40/42] docs/devel/testing: Split the Avocado documentation into a separate file Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 41/42] docs/devel/testing: Rename avocado_qemu.Test class Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 42/42] docs/devel/testing: Add documentation for functional tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-06 11:32 ` [PULL 00/42] Introduce new functional test framework Peter Maydell
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