From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF7D6D690ED for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 09:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tGavF-0003za-AN; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 04:34:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tGavE-0003zE-0S for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 04:34:52 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.133.124]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tGavC-0006lm-E1 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 04:34:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1732786487; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=6NZO8CGrZwWB1q5DRND68K5dRvVRtYZmeJ70aP3Oalo=; b=OXY9LhxnQbmeOm+otBW/h7hvYPl//pGQ+VGmtTmB1/gQekhBf7B9idt3B9vRDa5Ysp1m3J osGyHr6F5jQB1olVFqLxUNqw36MCn3mE2+u7T6wqzNYR0ChW7IsR0n2YylYJbOiKmaHEda FZG1cFkQquittkb/2UbcQsc6xo3Y5o8= Received: from mx-prod-mc-01.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (ec2-54-186-198-63.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com [54.186.198.63]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-258-IK9eNkS0MOuXYZ_aq74_ig-1; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 04:34:43 -0500 X-MC-Unique: IK9eNkS0MOuXYZ_aq74_ig-1 X-Mimecast-MFC-AGG-ID: IK9eNkS0MOuXYZ_aq74_ig Received: from mx-prod-int-02.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (mx-prod-int-02.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com [10.30.177.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx-prod-mc-01.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADA4819560A2; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 09:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.42.28.49]) by mx-prod-int-02.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69F141956046; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 09:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 09:34:35 +0000 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= To: Pierrick Bouvier Cc: Richard Henderson , Thomas Huth , Peter Maydell , Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi , Paolo Bonzini , Camilla Conte Subject: Re: [PULL 15/42] tests/functional: enable pre-emptive caching of assets Message-ID: References: <20240904103923.451847-1-thuth@redhat.com> <20240904103923.451847-16-thuth@redhat.com> <66bf4784-f1e4-479f-83db-2d4f91c10e48@linaro.org> <8ff5ef91-1a4b-498e-a948-37444d699f94@redhat.com> <7c62e46b-26c8-48e7-b8ec-b7478146a8d1@linaro.org> <07f2dcf3-8796-4e8e-af1e-c3e860dcd095@linaro.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <07f2dcf3-8796-4e8e-af1e-c3e860dcd095@linaro.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.13 (2024-03-09) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.0 on 10.30.177.15 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=berrange@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 10:31:13AM -0800, Pierrick Bouvier wrote: > On 11/27/24 01:06, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 04:54:18PM -0600, Richard Henderson wrote: > > > On 11/26/24 11:52, Thomas Huth wrote: > > > > I think we want to continue to maek failing downloads as test failures, > > > > otherwise we'll never notice when an asset is not available from the > > > > internet anymore (since SKIPs just get ignored). > > > > > > I disagree. Download failures are not rare. > > > > Failures of the test to download assets will be rare *if* we have the > > CI runner cache fixed. We only need to successfully download each > > asset once, and it should be cached forever with no expiry timeout. > > > > So we have an initially bootstrapping problem once caching is fixed, > > where download failures could impact us. Once the cache is primed, > > we'll only be at risk of download failures when introducing new > > asset URLs, so I think it is fair to say failures should be rare > > *if* we get the caching fixed. > > > > With regards, > > Daniel > > Beyond the QEMU CI, we should think about users trying to run tests, and > having the same kind of problems, but without having access to the magic > cache. > > Regarding the assets download, why don't we mirror them somewhere reliable > instead of relying on third party storage? If QEMU hosts these files, then QEMU is liable for license compliance, IOW, we have to identify & potentially host the full & corresponding source for all binaries in the images. This is not a business we want to be involved in as a project. With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|