From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Tomoyuki HIROSE" <tomoyuki.hirose@igel.co.jp>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/5] system/memory: support unaligned access
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 17:25:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z1oRTipSYMq3WvmZ@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-6KksbRmL7V0dm_0KJ_zgsaJqCkuTpswbbefyjdVeFCw@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 09:56:21AM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 at 16:43, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > I assume it's about xhci_cap_ops then. If you agree we can also mention
> > xhci_cap_ops when dscribing it, so readers can easily reference the MR
> > attributes from the code alongside with understanding the use case.
> >
> > Does it mean that it could also work if xhci_cap_ops.impl.min_access_size
> > can be changed to 2 (together with additional xhci_cap_read/write support)?
> >
> > Note that I'm not saying it must do so even if it would work for xHCI, but
> > if the memory API change is only for one device, then it can still be
> > discussed about which option would be better on changing the device or the
> > core.
>
> I think the memory system core has been broken in this area
> for a long time -- it purports to support impls which only
> do a subset of what the valid operations are, but it actually
> does buggy and wrong things in some cases. So far
> we have effectively worked around it by avoiding defining
> MemoryRegionOps that try to use the buggy areas, but I
> think it's much better to fix the code so it really does
> what it's theoretically intended to do.
Thanks, Peter. I assume it means there're a lot of devices that can use
this model. Then it makes perfect sense to do it in memory core.
Though I do have some confusion on why we needed impl.unaligned at all. I
see that Tomoyuki raised similar question, even if not exactly the same
one. I'll try to continue the discussion there.
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-11 22:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-08 3:29 [RFC PATCH 0/5] support unaligned access to xHCI Capability Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-08 3:29 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] hw/nvme/ctrl: specify the 'valid' field in MemoryRegionOps Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-08 3:29 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] system/memory: support unaligned access Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-02 21:23 ` Peter Xu
2024-12-06 8:31 ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-06 16:42 ` Peter Xu
2024-12-11 9:35 ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-11 22:54 ` Peter Xu
2024-12-12 5:39 ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-12 15:46 ` Peter Xu
2025-01-08 2:58 ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2025-01-08 16:50 ` Peter Xu
2025-01-10 10:11 ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2025-01-10 15:08 ` Peter Xu
2025-01-15 2:01 ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-11 9:56 ` Peter Maydell
2024-12-11 22:25 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-11-08 3:29 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] hw/misc: add test device for memory access Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-08 3:29 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] tests/qtest: add test for memory region access Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-08 3:29 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] hw/usb/hcd-xhci: allow unaligned access to Capability Registers Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-27 4:32 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] support unaligned access to xHCI Capability Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-27 11:23 ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-28 6:19 ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-28 11:15 ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-29 3:33 ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-02 14:17 ` Peter Maydell
2024-12-04 10:04 ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
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