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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Tomoyuki HIROSE" <tomoyuki.hirose@igel.co.jp>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/5] system/memory: support unaligned access
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 17:25:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z1oRTipSYMq3WvmZ@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-6KksbRmL7V0dm_0KJ_zgsaJqCkuTpswbbefyjdVeFCw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 09:56:21AM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 at 16:43, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > I assume it's about xhci_cap_ops then.  If you agree we can also mention
> > xhci_cap_ops when dscribing it, so readers can easily reference the MR
> > attributes from the code alongside with understanding the use case.
> >
> > Does it mean that it could also work if xhci_cap_ops.impl.min_access_size
> > can be changed to 2 (together with additional xhci_cap_read/write support)?
> >
> > Note that I'm not saying it must do so even if it would work for xHCI, but
> > if the memory API change is only for one device, then it can still be
> > discussed about which option would be better on changing the device or the
> > core.
> 
> I think the memory system core has been broken in this area
> for a long time -- it purports to support impls which only
> do a subset of what the valid operations are, but it actually
> does buggy and wrong things in some cases. So far
> we have effectively worked around it by avoiding defining
> MemoryRegionOps that try to use the buggy areas, but I
> think it's much better to fix the code so it really does
> what it's theoretically intended to do.

Thanks, Peter.  I assume it means there're a lot of devices that can use
this model.  Then it makes perfect sense to do it in memory core.

Though I do have some confusion on why we needed impl.unaligned at all.  I
see that Tomoyuki raised similar question, even if not exactly the same
one.  I'll try to continue the discussion there.

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-11 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-08  3:29 [RFC PATCH 0/5] support unaligned access to xHCI Capability Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-08  3:29 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] hw/nvme/ctrl: specify the 'valid' field in MemoryRegionOps Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-08  3:29 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] system/memory: support unaligned access Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-02 21:23   ` Peter Xu
2024-12-06  8:31     ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-06 16:42       ` Peter Xu
2024-12-11  9:35         ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-11 22:54           ` Peter Xu
2024-12-12  5:39             ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-12 15:46               ` Peter Xu
2025-01-08  2:58                 ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2025-01-08 16:50                   ` Peter Xu
2025-01-10 10:11                     ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2025-01-10 15:08                       ` Peter Xu
2025-01-15  2:01                         ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-11  9:56         ` Peter Maydell
2024-12-11 22:25           ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-11-08  3:29 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] hw/misc: add test device for memory access Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-08  3:29 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] tests/qtest: add test for memory region access Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-08  3:29 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] hw/usb/hcd-xhci: allow unaligned access to Capability Registers Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-27  4:32 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] support unaligned access to xHCI Capability Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-27 11:23   ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-28  6:19     ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-11-28 11:15       ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-29  3:33         ` Tomoyuki HIROSE
2024-12-02 14:17           ` Peter Maydell
2024-12-04 10:04             ` Tomoyuki HIROSE

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