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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Maciej S. Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>
Cc: "Avihai Horon" <avihaih@nvidia.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Joao Martins" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 08/24] migration: Add thread pool of optional load threads
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:55:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z1sVcJRamoUFshwk@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7e6373ca-b344-409f-a9ad-bce72779c10f@maciej.szmigiero.name>

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 12:05:03AM +0100, Maciej S. Szmigiero wrote:
> On 4.12.2024 23:43, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 01:11:53PM +0100, Maciej S. Szmigiero wrote:
> > > > > +static int qemu_loadvm_load_thread(void *thread_opaque)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +    struct LoadThreadData *data = thread_opaque;
> > > > > +    int ret;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +    ret = data->function(&load_threads_abort, data->opaque);
> > > > > +    if (ret && !qatomic_read(&load_threads_ret)) {
> > > > > +        /*
> > > > > +         * Racy with the above read but that's okay - which thread error
> > > > > +         * return we report is purely arbitrary anyway.
> > > > > +         */
> > > > > +        qatomic_set(&load_threads_ret, ret);
> > > > > +    }
> > > > 
> > > > Can we use cmpxchg instead? E.g.:
> > > > 
> > > > if (ret) {
> > > >       qatomic_cmpxchg(&load_threads_ret, 0, ret);
> > > > }
> > > 
> > > cmpxchg always forces sequentially consistent ordering
> > > while qatomic_read() and qatomic_set() have relaxed ordering.
> > > 
> > > As the comment above describes, there's no need for sequential
> > > consistency since which thread error is returned is arbitrary
> > > anyway.
> > 
> > IMHO this is not a hot path, so mem ordering isn't an issue.  If we could
> > avoid any data race we still should try to.
> > 
> > I do feel uneasy on the current design where everybody shares the "whether
> > to quit" via one bool, and any thread can set it... meanwhile we can't
> > stablize the first error to report later.
> > 
> > E.g., ideally we want to capture the first error no matter where it came
> > from, then keep it with migrate_set_error() so that "query-migrate" on dest
> > later can tell us what was wrong.  I think libvirt generally uses that.
> > 
> > So as to support a string error, at least we'll need to allow Error** in
> > the thread fn:
> > 
> > typedef bool (*MigrationLoadThread)(void *opaque, bool *should_quit,
> >                                      Error **errp);
> > 
> > I also changed retval to bool, as I mentioned elsewhere QEMU tries to stick
> > with "bool SOME_FUNCTION(..., Error **errp)" kind of error reporting.
> > 
> > Then any thread should only report error to qemu_loadvm_load_thread(), and
> > the report should always be a local Error**, then it further reports to the
> > global error.  Something like:
> > 
> > static int qemu_loadvm_load_thread(void *thread_opaque)
> > {
> >      MigrationIncomingState *mis = migration_incoming_get_current();
> >      struct LoadThreadData *data = thread_opaque;
> >      Error *error = NULL;
> > 
> >      if (!data->function(data->opaque, &mis->should_quit, &error)) {
> >         migrate_set_error(migrate_get_current(), error);
> >      }
> > 
> >      return 0;
> > }
> > 
> > migrate_set_error() is thread-safe, and it'll only record the 1st error.
> > 
> > Then the thread should only read &should_quit, and only set &error.  If we
> > want, migrate_set_error() can set &should_quit.
> > 
> > PS: I wished we have an unified place to tell whether we should quit
> > incoming migration - we already have multifd_recv_state->exiting, we could
> > have had a global flag like that then we can already use.  But I know I'm
> > asking too much.. However would you think it make sense to still have at
> > least Error** report the error and record it?
> > 
> 
> This could work with the following changes/caveats:
> * Needs g_autoptr(Error) otherwise these Error objects will leak.

True.. or just error_free() it after set.

> 
> * "1st error" here is as arbitrary as with my current code since which
> thread first acquires the mutex in migrate_set_error() is unspecified.

Yes that's still a step forward on being verbose of errors, which is almost
always more helpful than a bool..

Not exactly the 1st error in time sequence is ok - we don't strongly ask
for that, e.g. if two threads error at merely the same time it's ok we only
record one of them no matter which one is first.  That's unusual to start
with.

OTOH it matters on that we fail other threads only _after_ we set_error()
for the first error.  If so it's mostly always the case the captured error
will be valid and the real 1st error.

> 
> * We still need to test this new error flag (now as migrate_has_error())
> in qemu_loadvm_state() to see whether we proceed forward with the
> migration.

Yes, or just to work like what this patch does: set mis->should_quit within
the 1st setup of migrate_set_error().  For the longer term, maybe we need
to do more to put together all error setup/detection for migration.. but
for now we can at least do that for this series to set should_quit=true
there only.  It should work like your series, only that the boolean won't
be writable to data->function() but read-only there, for the sake of
capturing the Error string.

> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Also, I am not in favor of replacing load_threads_abort with something
> else since we still want to ask threads to quit for other reasons, like
> earlier (non-load threads related) failure in the migration process.
> 
> That's why we set this flag unconditionally in qemu_loadvm_state() -
> see also my answer about that flag in the next message.

I'm not against having a boolean to say quit, maybe we should have that for
!vfio use case too, and I'm ok we introduce one.  But I hope two things can
work out:

  - Capture Error* and persist it in query-migrate (aka, use
    migrate_set_error).

  - Avoid setting load_threads_abort explicitly in vmstate load path.  It
    should really be part of destroy(), IMHO, as I mentioned in the other
    email, to recycle load threads in a failure case.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-12 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-17 19:19 [PATCH v3 00/24] Multifd 🔀 device state transfer support with VFIO consumer Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-17 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 01/24] migration: Clarify that {load, save}_cleanup handlers can run without setup Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-25 19:08   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-26 16:25   ` [PATCH v3 01/24] migration: Clarify that {load,save}_cleanup " Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-17 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 02/24] thread-pool: Remove thread_pool_submit() function Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-25 19:13   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-26 16:25   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-12-04 19:24   ` Peter Xu
2024-12-06 21:11     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-17 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 03/24] thread-pool: Rename AIO pool functions to *_aio() and data types to *Aio Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-25 19:15   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-26 16:26   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-12-04 19:26   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-17 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 04/24] thread-pool: Implement generic (non-AIO) pool support Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-25 19:41   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-25 19:55     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-25 20:51       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-26 19:25       ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-26 21:21         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-26 19:29   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-26 21:22     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-05 13:10       ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-28 10:08   ` Avihai Horon
2024-11-28 12:11     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-04 20:04   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 05/24] migration: Add MIG_CMD_SWITCHOVER_START and its load handler Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-25 19:46   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-26 19:37   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-26 21:22     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-04 21:29   ` Peter Xu
2024-12-05 19:46     ` Zhang Chen
2024-12-06 18:24       ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-06 22:12         ` Peter Xu
2024-12-09  1:43           ` Zhang Chen
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 06/24] migration: Add qemu_loadvm_load_state_buffer() and its handler Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-04 21:32   ` Peter Xu
2024-12-06 21:12     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 07/24] migration: Document the BQL behavior of load SaveVMHandlers Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-04 21:38   ` Peter Xu
2024-12-06 18:40     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-06 22:15       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 08/24] migration: Add thread pool of optional load threads Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-25 19:58   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-27  9:13   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-27 20:16     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-04 22:48       ` Peter Xu
2024-12-05 16:15         ` Peter Xu
2024-12-10 23:05           ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-10 23:05         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-12 16:38           ` Peter Xu
2024-12-12 22:53             ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-16 16:29               ` Peter Xu
2024-12-16 23:15                 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-17 14:50                   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-28 10:26   ` Avihai Horon
2024-11-28 12:11     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-04 22:43       ` Peter Xu
2024-12-10 23:05         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-12 16:55           ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-12-12 22:53             ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-16 16:33               ` Peter Xu
2024-12-16 23:15                 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 09/24] migration/multifd: Split packet into header and RAM data Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-26 14:34   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-12-05 15:29   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 10/24] migration/multifd: Device state transfer support - receive side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-05 16:06   ` Peter Xu
2024-12-06 21:12     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-06 21:57       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 11/24] migration/multifd: Make multifd_send() thread safe Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-05 16:17   ` Peter Xu
2024-12-06 21:12     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 12/24] migration/multifd: Add an explicit MultiFDSendData destructor Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-05 16:23   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 13/24] migration/multifd: Device state transfer support - send side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-26 19:58   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-26 21:22     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 14/24] migration/multifd: Make MultiFDSendData a struct Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 15/24] migration/multifd: Add migration_has_device_state_support() Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-26 20:05   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-28 10:33   ` Avihai Horon
2024-11-28 12:12     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-05 16:44       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 16/24] migration/multifd: Send final SYNC only after device state is complete Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-26 20:52   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-26 21:22     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-05 19:02       ` Peter Xu
2024-12-10 23:05         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-11 13:20           ` Peter Xu
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 17/24] migration: Add save_live_complete_precopy_thread handler Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-29 14:03   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-29 17:14     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 18/24] vfio/migration: Don't run load cleanup if load setup didn't run Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-29 14:08   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-29 17:15     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-03 15:09       ` Avihai Horon
2024-12-10 23:04         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-12 14:30           ` Avihai Horon
2024-12-12 22:52             ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-19  9:19               ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 19/24] vfio/migration: Add x-migration-multifd-transfer VFIO property Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-29 14:11   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-29 17:15     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-19  9:37       ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 20/24] vfio/migration: Add load_device_config_state_start trace event Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-29 14:26   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 21/24] vfio/migration: Convert bytes_transferred counter to atomic Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 22/24] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer support - receive side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-02 17:56   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-12-10 23:04     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-19 14:13       ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-12-09  9:13   ` Avihai Horon
2024-12-10 23:06     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-12 14:33       ` Avihai Horon
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 23/24] migration/qemu-file: Define g_autoptr() cleanup function for QEMUFile Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-11-26 21:01   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-12-05 19:49   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-17 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 24/24] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer support - send side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-09  9:28   ` Avihai Horon
2024-12-10 23:06     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-12 11:10       ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-12-12 22:52         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-13 11:08           ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-12-13 18:25             ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-12 14:54       ` Avihai Horon
2024-12-12 22:53         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-16 17:33           ` Peter Xu
2024-12-19  9:50             ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-12-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v3 00/24] Multifd 🔀 device state transfer support with VFIO consumer Peter Xu
2024-12-06 18:03   ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-06 22:20     ` Peter Xu
2024-12-10 23:06       ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-12-12 17:35         ` Peter Xu
2024-12-19  7:55           ` Yanghang Liu
2024-12-19  8:53             ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-12-19 13:00               ` Yanghang Liu
2024-12-05 21:27 ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-12-05 21:42   ` Peter Xu
2024-12-06 10:24     ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-12-06 18:44   ` Maciej S. Szmigiero

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