qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>
Cc: "Chenyi Qiang" <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>,
	"Xiaoyao Li" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Williams Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Peng Chao P" <chao.p.peng@intel.com>,
	"Gao Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>, "Xu Yilun" <yilun.xu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] guest_memfd: Introduce an object to manage the guest-memfd with RamDiscardManager
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 11:12:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z5O784_wnrBMrV6X@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2115c769-144c-4254-94b0-6b38b7afc6fc@amd.com>

On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 04:56:50PM +1100, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> > Now, I assume Peter's real question is, if we can copy the vBIOS to a
> > private region and no need to create a specific guest_memfd-backed
> > memory region for it?

Yes.

> 
> I guess we can copy it but we have pc.bios and pc.rom in own memory regions
> for some reason even for legacy non-secure VMs, for ages, so it has little
> or nothing to do with whether vBIOS is in private or shared memory. Thanks,

My previous question is whether they are required to be converted to be
guest-memfd backed memory regions, irrelevant of whether they're separate
or not.

I think I found some answers in the commit logs here (it isn't hiding too
deep; I could have tried when asking):

===8<===
commit fc7a69e177e4ba26d11fcf47b853f85115b35a11
Author: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
Date:   Thu May 30 06:16:40 2024 -0500

    hw/i386: Add support for loading BIOS using guest_memfd
    
    When guest_memfd is enabled, the BIOS is generally part of the initial
    encrypted guest image and will be accessed as private guest memory. Add
    the necessary changes to set up the associated RAM region with a
    guest_memfd backend to allow for this.
    
    Current support centers around using -bios to load the BIOS data.
    Support for loading the BIOS via pflash requires additional enablement
    since those interfaces rely on the use of ROM memory regions which make
    use of the KVM_MEM_READONLY memslot flag, which is not supported for
    guest_memfd-backed memslots.

commit 413a67450750e0459efeffc3db3ba9759c3e381c
Author: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
Date:   Thu May 30 06:16:39 2024 -0500

    hw/i386/sev: Use guest_memfd for legacy ROMs
    
    Current SNP guest kernels will attempt to access these regions with
    with C-bit set, so guest_memfd is needed to handle that. Otherwise,
    kvm_convert_memory() will fail when the guest kernel tries to access it
    and QEMU attempts to call KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES to set these ranges
    to private.
    
    Whether guests should actually try to access ROM regions in this way (or
    need to deal with legacy ROM regions at all), is a separate issue to be
    addressed on kernel side, but current SNP guest kernels will exhibit
    this behavior and so this handling is needed to allow QEMU to continue
    running existing SNP guest kernels.
===8<===

So IIUC the CoCo VMs will assume they're somehow convertable memories or
they'll stop working I assume, at least on some existing hardwares.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-24 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-13  7:08 [PATCH 0/7] Enable shared device assignment Chenyi Qiang
2024-12-13  7:08 ` [PATCH 1/7] memory: Export a helper to get intersection of a MemoryRegionSection with a given range Chenyi Qiang
2024-12-18 12:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-08  4:47   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-08  6:41     ` Chenyi Qiang
2024-12-13  7:08 ` [PATCH 2/7] guest_memfd: Introduce an object to manage the guest-memfd with RamDiscardManager Chenyi Qiang
2024-12-18  6:45   ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-08  4:48   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-08 10:56     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-08 11:20       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-09  2:11         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-09  2:55           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-09  4:29             ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-10  0:58               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-10  6:38                 ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-09 21:00                   ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-09 21:50                     ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-13  3:34                       ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-12 22:23                         ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-14  1:14                           ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-15  4:06                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-15  6:15                     ` Chenyi Qiang
     [not found]                       ` <2b2730f3-6e1a-4def-b126-078cf6249759@amd.com>
2025-01-20 20:46                         ` Peter Xu
2024-06-24 16:31                           ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-21 15:18                             ` Peter Xu
2025-01-22  4:30                               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-22  9:41                                 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-22 16:43                                   ` Peter Xu
2025-01-23  9:33                                     ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-23 16:47                                       ` Peter Xu
2025-01-24  9:47                                         ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-24 15:55                                           ` Peter Xu
2025-01-24 18:17                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-26  3:34                                             ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-30 16:28                                               ` Peter Xu
2025-01-30 16:51                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-06 10:41                                                 ` Xu Yilun
2025-02-06 20:03                                                   ` Peter Xu
2025-01-14  6:45               ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-13 10:54       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-14  1:10         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-15  4:05         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
     [not found]           ` <f3aaffe7-7045-4288-8675-349115a867ce@redhat.com>
2025-01-20 17:21             ` Peter Xu
2025-01-20 17:54               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-20 18:33                 ` Peter Xu
2025-01-20 18:47                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-20 20:19                     ` Peter Xu
2025-01-20 20:25                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-20 20:43                         ` Peter Xu
2025-01-21  1:35                   ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-21 16:35                     ` Peter Xu
2025-01-22  3:28                       ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-22  5:38                         ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-01-24  0:15                           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-24  3:09                             ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-24  5:56                               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-24 16:12                                 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2025-01-20 18:09   ` Peter Xu
2025-01-21  9:00     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-21  9:26       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-21 10:16         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-21 10:26           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-22  6:43             ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-21 15:38       ` Peter Xu
2025-01-24  3:40         ` Chenyi Qiang
2024-12-13  7:08 ` [PATCH 3/7] guest_memfd: Introduce a callback to notify the shared/private state change Chenyi Qiang
2024-12-13  7:08 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: Notify the state change event during shared/private conversion Chenyi Qiang
2024-12-13  7:08 ` [PATCH 5/7] memory: Register the RamDiscardManager instance upon guest_memfd creation Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-08  4:47   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-09  5:34     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-09  9:32       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-10  5:13         ` Chenyi Qiang
     [not found]           ` <59bd0e82-f269-4567-8f75-a32c9c997ca9@redhat.com>
2025-01-24  3:27             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-24  5:36               ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-09  8:14   ` Zhao Liu
2025-01-09  8:17     ` Chenyi Qiang
2024-12-13  7:08 ` [PATCH 6/7] RAMBlock: make guest_memfd require coordinate discard Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-13 10:56   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-14  1:38     ` Chenyi Qiang
     [not found]       ` <e1141052-1dec-435b-8635-a41881fedd4c@redhat.com>
2025-01-21  6:26         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-21  8:05           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-13  7:08 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] memory: Add a new argument to indicate the request attribute in RamDismcardManager helpers Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-08  4:47 ` [PATCH 0/7] Enable shared device assignment Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-08  6:28   ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-08 11:38     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-09  7:52       ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-09  8:18         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-09  8:49           ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-10  1:42             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-10  7:06               ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-01-10  8:26                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 13:20                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-10 13:45                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 14:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-10 14:50                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-15  3:39                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-15 12:49                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <cc3428b1-22b7-432a-9c74-12b7e36b6cc6@redhat.com>
2025-01-20 18:39                               ` Jason Gunthorpe

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=Z5O784_wnrBMrV6X@x1n \
    --to=peterx@redhat.com \
    --cc=aik@amd.com \
    --cc=chao.gao@intel.com \
    --cc=chao.p.peng@intel.com \
    --cc=chenyi.qiang@intel.com \
    --cc=dan.j.williams@intel.com \
    --cc=david@redhat.com \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=michael.roth@amd.com \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=philmd@linaro.org \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=xiaoyao.li@intel.com \
    --cc=yilun.xu@intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).