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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Cc: Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	peter.maydell@linaro.org, jgg@nvidia.com, nicolinc@nvidia.com,
	ddutile@redhat.com, linuxarm@huawei.com, wangzhou1@hisilicon.com,
	jiangkunkun@huawei.com, jonathan.cameron@huawei.com,
	zhangfei.gao@linaro.org, Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] hw/arm/virt: Add support for user-creatable nested SMMUv3
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 16:41:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z5urwACWPO7CiQYN@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8ce24003-66ad-43da-b68a-14686758a85a@redhat.com>

On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 11:50:46AM +0100, Eric Auger wrote:
> Hi Shameer,
> 
> On 11/8/24 13:52, Shameer Kolothum wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This series adds initial support for a user-creatable "arm-smmuv3-nested"
> > device to Qemu. At present the Qemu ARM SMMUv3 emulation is per machine
> > and cannot support multiple SMMUv3s.
> >
> > In order to support vfio-pci dev assignment with vSMMUv3, the physical
> > SMMUv3 has to be configured in nested mode. Having a pluggable
> > "arm-smmuv3-nested" device enables us to have multiple vSMMUv3 for Guests
> > running on a host with multiple physical SMMUv3s. A few benefits of doing
> > this are,
> >
> > 1. Avoid invalidation broadcast or lookup in case devices are behind
> >    multiple phys SMMUv3s.
> > 2. Makes it easy to handle phys SMMUv3s that differ in features.
> > 3. Easy to handle future requirements such as vCMDQ support.
> >
> > This is based on discussions/suggestions received for a previous RFC by
> > Nicolin here[0].
> >
> > This series includes,
> >  -Adds support for "arm-smmuv3-nested" device. At present only virt is
> >   supported and is using _plug_cb() callback to hook the sysbus mem
> >   and irq (Not sure this has any negative repercussions). Patch #3.
> >  -Provides a way to associate a pci-bus(pxb-pcie) to the above device.
> >   Patch #3.
> >  -The last patch is adding RMR support for MSI doorbell handling. Patch #5.
> >   This may change in future[1].
> >
> > This RFC is for initial discussion/test purposes only and includes patches
> > that are only relevant for adding the "arm-smmuv3-nested" support. For the
> > complete branch please find,
> > https://github.com/hisilicon/qemu/tree/private-smmuv3-nested-dev-rfc-v1
> >
> > Few ToDos to note,
> > 1. At present default-bus-bypass-iommu=on should be set when
> >    arm-smmuv3-nested dev is specified. Otherwise you may get an IORT
> >    related boot error.  Requires fixing.
> > 2. Hot adding a device is not working at the moment. Looks like pcihp irq issue.
> >    Could be a bug in IORT id mappings.
> > 3. The above branch doesn't support vSVA yet.
> >
> > Hopefully this is helpful in taking the discussion forward. Please take a
> > look and let me know.
> >
> > How to use it(Eg:):
> >
> > On a HiSilicon platform that has multiple physical SMMUv3s, the ACC ZIP VF
> > devices and HNS VF devices are behind different SMMUv3s. So for a Guest,
> > specify two smmuv3-nested devices each behind a pxb-pcie as below,
> >
> > ./qemu-system-aarch64 -machine virt,gic-version=3,default-bus-bypass-iommu=on \
> > -enable-kvm -cpu host -m 4G -smp cpus=8,maxcpus=8 \
> > -object iommufd,id=iommufd0 \
> > -bios QEMU_EFI.fd \
> > -kernel Image \
> > -device virtio-blk-device,drive=fs \
> > -drive if=none,file=rootfs.qcow2,id=fs \
> > -device pxb-pcie,id=pcie.1,bus_nr=8,bus=pcie.0 \
> > -device pcie-root-port,id=pcie.port1,bus=pcie.1,chassis=1 \
> > -device arm-smmuv3-nested,id=smmuv1,pci-bus=pcie.1 \
> > -device vfio-pci,host=0000:7d:02.1,bus=pcie.port1,iommufd=iommufd0 \
> > -device pxb-pcie,id=pcie.2,bus_nr=16,bus=pcie.0 \
> > -device pcie-root-port,id=pcie.port2,bus=pcie.2,chassis=2 \
> > -device arm-smmuv3-nested,id=smmuv2,pci-bus=pcie.2 \
> > -device vfio-pci,host=0000:75:00.1,bus=pcie.port2,iommufd=iommufd0 \
> > -append "rdinit=init console=ttyAMA0 root=/dev/vda2 rw earlycon=pl011,0x9000000" \
> > -device virtio-9p-pci,fsdev=p9fs2,mount_tag=p9,bus=pcie.0 \
> > -fsdev local,id=p9fs2,path=p9root,security_model=mapped \
> This kind of instantiation matches what I had in mind. It is
> questionable whether the legacy SMMU shouldn't be migrated to that mode
> too (instead of using a machine option setting), depending on Peter's
> feedbacks and also comments from Libvirt guys. Adding Andrea in the loop.

Yeah, looking at the current config I'm pretty surprised to see it
configured with '-machine virt,iommu=ssmuv3', where 'smmuv3' is a
type name. This effectively a back-door reinvention of the '-device'
arg.

I think it'd make more sense to deprecate the 'iommu' property
on the machine, and allow '-device ssmu3,pci-bus=pcie.0' to
associate the IOMMU with the PCI root bus, so we have consistent
approaches for all SMMU impls.

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-30 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-08 12:52 [RFC PATCH 0/5] hw/arm/virt: Add support for user-creatable nested SMMUv3 Shameer Kolothum via
2024-11-08 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] hw/arm/virt: Add an SMMU_IO_LEN macro Shameer Kolothum via
2024-11-13 16:48   ` Eric Auger
2024-11-08 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] hw/arm/smmuv3: Add initial support for SMMUv3 Nested device Shameer Kolothum via
2024-11-13 17:12   ` Eric Auger
2024-11-13 18:05     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-11-26 18:28       ` Donald Dutile
2024-11-27 10:21         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-27 16:00           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-27 16:05             ` Eric Auger
2024-11-28  3:25               ` Zhangfei Gao
2024-11-28  8:06                 ` Eric Auger
2024-11-28  8:28                   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-28  8:41                     ` Eric Auger
2024-11-28 12:52                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-27 23:03             ` Donald Dutile
2024-11-28 12:51               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-28  4:29           ` Donald Dutile
2024-11-28  4:44             ` Nicolin Chen
2024-11-28 12:54               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-28 18:22                 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-12-02 18:53                 ` Donald Dutile
2024-11-28  8:17             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-14  8:20     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-14  8:41       ` Eric Auger
2024-11-14 13:27         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-15 22:32       ` Nicolin Chen
2024-11-13 18:00   ` Eric Auger
2024-11-08 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] hw/arm/smmuv3: Associate a pci bus with a " Shameer Kolothum via
2024-11-13 17:58   ` Eric Auger
2024-11-14  8:30     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-01-30 16:29   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-01-30 18:19     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-08 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Build IORT with multiple SMMU nodes Shameer Kolothum via
2024-11-18 10:01   ` Eric Auger
2024-11-18 11:44     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-18 13:45       ` Eric Auger
2024-11-18 15:00         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-18 18:09           ` Eric Auger
2024-11-20 14:16             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-20 16:10               ` Eric Auger
2024-11-20 16:26                 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-21  9:46                   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-12-10 20:48                     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-12-11 15:21                       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-12-13  0:28                         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-11-08 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Add IORT RMR regions to handle MSI nested binding Shameer Kolothum via
2024-11-13 18:31   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-11-14  8:48     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-14 10:41       ` Eric Auger
2024-11-15 22:12         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-12-10 23:01   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-12-11  0:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-12-11  1:28       ` Nicolin Chen
2024-12-11 13:11         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-12-11 17:20           ` Nicolin Chen
2024-12-11 18:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-12 22:59 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] hw/arm/virt: Add support for user-creatable nested SMMUv3 Nicolin Chen
2024-11-14  7:56   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-20 23:59   ` Nathan Chen
2024-11-21 10:12     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-22  1:41       ` Nathan Chen
2024-11-22 17:38         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-22 18:53           ` Nathan Chen
2025-02-04 14:00             ` Eric Auger
2024-12-13 11:58           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-12-13 12:43             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-12-12 23:54     ` Nathan Chen
2024-12-13  1:01       ` Nathan Chen
2024-12-16  9:31         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-01-25  2:43           ` Nathan Chen
2025-01-27 15:26             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-01-27 23:35               ` Nathan Chen
2024-11-13 16:16 ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-11-14  8:01   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-14 11:49     ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-11-13 21:42 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-11-14  9:11   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-11-18 10:50 ` Eric Auger
2025-01-30 16:41   ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-12-13 12:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-12-13 12:46   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-12-13 13:19     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-12-16  9:38       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2024-12-17 18:36       ` Donald Dutile
2024-12-13 13:33     ` Peter Maydell
2024-12-16 10:01       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-01-09  4:45         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-01-11  4:05           ` Donald Dutile
2025-01-23  4:10             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-01-23  8:28               ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-01-23  8:40                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-01-23 11:07                 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-02-17  9:17                   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-02-18  6:52                     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-06 17:59                       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-06 18:27                         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-06 18:40                           ` Eric Auger
2025-01-31 16:54           ` Eric Auger
2025-02-03 18:50             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-02-04 17:49               ` Eric Auger
2025-02-05  0:08                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-02-05 10:43                   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-02-05 12:35                   ` Eric Auger
2025-02-06 10:34                   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-02-06 18:58                     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-03 15:21                       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-03 17:04                         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-04  9:30                           ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-01-30 16:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-01-30 18:09   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-01-31  9:33     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-01-31 10:07       ` Eric Auger
2025-01-31 14:24       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-31 14:39         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-01-31 14:54           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-31 15:23             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-01-31 16:08               ` Eric Auger
2025-02-05 20:53                 ` Nathan Chen
2025-02-06  8:54                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-06  8:53                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-06 16:44                   ` Eric Auger
2025-01-31 21:41     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-06 10:02       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-02-06 10:37         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-06 13:51           ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-02-06 14:46             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-06 15:07               ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-02-06 17:02                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-06 17:10                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-06 17:46                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-06 17:54                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-06 17:58                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-06 18:04                           ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-02-06 18:13                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-06 18:18                               ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-02-06 18:22                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-06 20:33                                   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-02-06 20:38                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-06 20:48                                       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-02-06 21:11                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-06 22:46                                           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-02-07  0:08                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 10:21                                     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-02-07 10:31                                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-07 12:21                                         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-02-07 12:53                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-06 18:18                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-06 17:57                       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-02-06 17:59                         ` Jason Gunthorpe

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