From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <eduardo@habkost.net>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Shaoqin Huang <shahuang@redhat.com>,
Eric Auger <eauger@redhat.com>,
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>,
Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>, Sebastian Ott <sebott@redhat.com>,
Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
Dapeng Mi <dapeng1.mi@intel.com>, Yi Lai <yi1.lai@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 3/5] i386/kvm: Support event with select & umask format in KVM PMU filter
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 09:42:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6SEIqhJEWrMWTU1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z6SG2NLxxhz4adlV@intel.com>
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 05:54:32PM +0800, Zhao Liu wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 11:07:10AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2025 11:07:10 +0100
> > From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: [RFC v2 3/5] i386/kvm: Support event with select & umask
> > format in KVM PMU filter
> >
> > Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> writes:
> >
> > > The select&umask is the common way for x86 to identify the PMU event,
> > > so support this way as the "x86-default" format in kvm-pmu-filter
> > > object.
> >
> > So, format 'raw' lets you specify the PMU event code as a number, wheras
> > 'x86-default' lets you specify it as select and umask, correct?
>
> Yes!
>
> > Why do we want both?
>
> This 2 formats are both wildly used in x86(for example, in perf tool).
>
> x86 documents usually specify the umask and select fields.
>
> But raw format could also be applied for ARM since ARM just uses a number
> to encode event.
>
> > > Signed-off-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > diff --git a/qapi/kvm.json b/qapi/kvm.json
> > > index d51aeeba7cd8..93b869e3f90c 100644
> > > --- a/qapi/kvm.json
> > > +++ b/qapi/kvm.json
> > > @@ -27,11 +27,13 @@
> > > #
> > > # @raw: the encoded event code that KVM can directly consume.
> > > #
> > > +# @x86-default: standard x86 encoding format with select and umask.
> >
> > Why is this named -default?
>
> Intel and AMD both use umask+select to encode events, but this format
> doesn't have a name... so I call it `default`, or what about
> "x86-umask-select"?
>
> > > +#
> > > # Since 10.0
> > > ##
> > > { 'enum': 'KVMPMUEventEncodeFmt',
> > > 'prefix': 'KVM_PMU_EVENT_FMT',
> > > - 'data': ['raw'] }
> > > + 'data': ['raw', 'x86-default'] }
> > >
> > > ##
> > > # @KVMPMURawEvent:
> > > @@ -46,6 +48,25 @@
> > > { 'struct': 'KVMPMURawEvent',
> > > 'data': { 'code': 'uint64' } }
> > >
> > > +##
> > > +# @KVMPMUX86DefalutEvent:
> >
> > Default, I suppose.
>
> Thanks!
>
> > > +#
> > > +# x86 PMU event encoding with select and umask.
> > > +# raw_event = ((select & 0xf00UL) << 24) | \
> > > +# (select) & 0xff) | \
> > > +# ((umask) & 0xff) << 8)
> >
> > Sphinx rejects this with "Unexpected indentation."
> >
> > Is the formula needed here?
>
> I tried to explain the relationship between raw format and umask+select.
>
> Emm, where do you think is the right place to put the document like
> this?
>
> ...
>
> > > +##
> > > +# @KVMPMUX86DefalutEventVariant:
Typo s/Defalut/Default/ - repeated many times in this patch.
> > > +#
> > > +# The variant of KVMPMUX86DefalutEvent with the string, rather than
> > > +# the numeric value.
> > > +#
> > > +# @select: x86 PMU event select field. This field is a 12-bit
> > > +# unsigned number string.
> > > +#
> > > +# @umask: x86 PMU event umask field. This field is a uint8 string.
> >
> > Why are these strings? How are they parsed into numbers?
>
> In practice, the values associated with PMU events (code for arm, select&
> umask for x86) are often expressed in hexadecimal. Further, from linux
> perf related information (tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/*/*/*.json), x86/
> arm64/riscv/nds32/powerpc all prefer the hexadecimal numbers and only
> s390 uses decimal value.
>
> Therefore, it is necessary to support hexadecimal in order to honor PMU
> conventions.
IMHO having a data format that matches an arbitrary external tool is not
a goal for QMP. It should be neutral and exclusively use the normal JSON
encoding, ie base-10 decimal. Yes, this means a user/client may have to
convert from hex to dec before sending data over QMP. This is true of
many areas of QMP/QEMU config though and thus normal/expected behaviour.
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-06 9:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-22 9:05 [RFC v2 0/5] accel/kvm: Support KVM PMU filter Zhao Liu
2025-01-22 9:05 ` [RFC v2 1/5] qapi/qom: Introduce kvm-pmu-filter object Zhao Liu
2025-02-05 10:03 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-02-06 10:19 ` Zhao Liu
2025-02-06 10:27 ` Zhao Liu
2025-02-06 12:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-02-06 14:32 ` Zhao Liu
2025-02-07 13:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-01 7:47 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-08 5:51 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-01-22 9:05 ` [RFC v2 2/5] i386/kvm: Support basic KVM PMU filter Zhao Liu
2025-01-22 9:05 ` [RFC v2 3/5] i386/kvm: Support event with select & umask format in " Zhao Liu
2025-02-05 10:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-02-06 9:54 ` Zhao Liu
2025-02-06 9:42 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-02-06 10:23 ` Zhao Liu
2025-02-06 10:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-02-06 14:22 ` Zhao Liu
2025-02-06 14:54 ` Zhao Liu
2025-02-07 13:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-01 7:53 ` Zhao Liu
2025-01-22 9:05 ` [RFC v2 4/5] i386/kvm: Support event with masked entry " Zhao Liu
2025-01-22 9:05 ` [RFC v2 5/5] i386/kvm: Support fixed counter " Zhao Liu
2025-01-24 8:00 ` [RFC v2 0/5] accel/kvm: Support " Lai, Yi
2025-03-18 7:35 ` Shaoqin Huang
2025-03-21 3:43 ` Zhao Liu
2025-03-31 6:32 ` Shaoqin Huang
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