From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
"BALATON Zoltan" <balaton@eik.bme.hu>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
"Harsh Prateek Bora" <harshpb@linux.ibm.com>,
"Tony Krowiak" <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>,
"Eric Farman" <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
"Eric Auger" <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] vfio: Make vfio-pci available on 64-bit host platforms only
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 16:51:59 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8XeLwi9mFJixx-8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a19520bf-9e0a-4a63-bc31-06b63e23c3d3@linaro.org>
On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 03:53:29PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 3/3/25 15:43, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > On 2/26/25 17:26, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
> > > On 2/26/25 15:12, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2025, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
> > > > > VFIO PCI never worked on PPC32 nor ARM, S390x is 64-bit, it might have
> > > > > worked on i386 long ago but we have no plans to further support VFIO
> > > > > on any 32-bit host platforms. Restrict to 64-bit host platforms.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cc: Harsh Prateek Bora <harshpb@linux.ibm.com>
> > > > > Cc: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>
> > > > > Cc: Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>
> > > > > Cc: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Cédric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > hw/vfio/Kconfig | 2 +-
> > > > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/hw/vfio/Kconfig b/hw/vfio/Kconfig
> > > > > index 7cdba0560aa821c88d3420b36f86020575834202..6ed825429a9151fcdff33e95d1a310210689b258
> > > > > 100644
> > > > > --- a/hw/vfio/Kconfig
> > > > > +++ b/hw/vfio/Kconfig
> > > > > @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ config VFIO_PCI
> > > > > default y
> > > > > select VFIO
> > > > > select EDID
> > > > > - depends on LINUX && PCI
> > > > > + depends on LINUX && PCI && (AARCH64 || PPC64 || X86_64 || S390X)
> > > >
> > > > Are these defined for the host or target?
> > >
> > > host.
> >
> > No, Zoltan is correct. They are defined for the target,
>
> Oops indeed, not my day.
>
> > so if you build for 32-bit ARM you'd still get things with "depends on
> > AARCH64" in qemu- system-aarch64. You can check that you have
> >
> > config SBSA_REF
> > bool
> > default y
> > depends on TCG && AARCH64
> >
> > but on x86-64:
> >
> > $ qemu-system-aarch64 -M help|grep sbsa
> > sbsa-ref QEMU 'SBSA Reference' ARM Virtual Machine
> >
> >
> > > As per commit 6d701c9bac1d3571e9ad511e01b27df7237f0b13 "meson: Deprecate
> > > 32-bit host support", support will be fully removed in 2 releases and
> > > it doesn't need to be addressed by VFIO.
> >
> > Note that a deprecation *allows* full removal in 2 releases. We have a
> > lot of things that are deprecated but have not been removed. For
> > example
> >
> > Short-form boolean options (since 6.0)
> > ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
> >
> > Boolean options such as ``share=on``/``share=off`` could be written
> > in short form as ``share`` and ``noshare``. This is now deprecated
> > and will cause a warning.
> >
> > is deprecated to *allow* switching command-line options from the "qemu-
> > options" parser to the "keyval" parser that doesn't support short-form
> > boolean options, but it's unlikely that qemu-options will drop support
> > for short-form boolean options.
>
> In another thread Daniel said deprecated options shall be removed, the
> only justification for delay being man power, IIRC.
Right, after 2 releases a deprecated thing is open to deletion.
Deleting still requires someone to do the work though, so we end up with
things living longer than the 2 release deprecation period until someone
with motivation comes along to do the deletion.
If we change our mind & truly don't want to delete something, then the
deprecation notice is supposed to be removed, not left around forever.
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-03 16:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-26 8:47 [PATCH 0/2] vfio: Restrict to 64-bit host platforms Cédric Le Goater
2025-02-26 8:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] vfio: Make vfio-pci available on 64-bit host platforms only Cédric Le Goater
2025-02-26 14:12 ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-02-26 16:26 ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-02-26 17:57 ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-03-03 14:30 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-03 14:45 ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-03-03 14:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-03-03 15:05 ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-03 15:26 ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-03-03 15:48 ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-03 16:04 ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-03 16:57 ` Peter Maydell
2025-03-03 17:32 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 6:38 ` Thomas Huth
2025-03-05 13:21 ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-03-03 17:34 ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-03 16:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-03-03 17:32 ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-03 18:11 ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-03 14:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-03-03 14:53 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-03 16:51 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-03-03 15:07 ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-02-26 8:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] vfio: Make vfio-platform available on Aarch64 " Cédric Le Goater
2025-02-27 8:32 ` Eric Auger
2025-02-27 17:27 ` Alex Williamson
2025-03-03 14:32 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-03 18:07 ` Eric Auger
2025-02-26 14:01 ` [PATCH 0/2] vfio: Restrict to 64-bit host platforms Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-26 15:49 ` Cédric Le Goater
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