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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Maciej S. Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>
Cc: "Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Avihai Horon" <avihaih@nvidia.com>,
	"Joao Martins" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 07/36] migration: postcopy_ram_listen_thread() should take BQL for some calls
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 07:34:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8hE3ujEKkwsBiJO@x1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24a7412cc151f8b48d74cd170a3bdc1ce8e6c879.1741124640.git.maciej.szmigiero@oracle.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:03:34PM +0100, Maciej S. Szmigiero wrote:
> From: "Maciej S. Szmigiero" <maciej.szmigiero@oracle.com>
> 
> All callers to migration_incoming_state_destroy() other than
> postcopy_ram_listen_thread() do this call with BQL held.
> 
> Since migration_incoming_state_destroy() ultimately calls "load_cleanup"
> SaveVMHandlers and it will soon call BQL-sensitive code it makes sense
> to always call that function under BQL rather than to have it deal with
> both cases (with BQL and without BQL).
> Add the necessary bql_lock() and bql_unlock() to
> postcopy_ram_listen_thread().
> 
> qemu_loadvm_state_main() in postcopy_ram_listen_thread() could call
> "load_state" SaveVMHandlers that are expecting BQL to be held.
> 
> In principle, the only devices that should be arriving on migration
> channel serviced by postcopy_ram_listen_thread() are those that are
> postcopiable and whose load handlers are safe to be called without BQL
> being held.
> 
> But nothing currently prevents the source from sending data for "unsafe"
> devices which would cause trouble there.
> Add a TODO comment there so it's clear that it would be good to improve
> handling of such (erroneous) case in the future.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Maciej S. Szmigiero <maciej.szmigiero@oracle.com>
> ---
>  migration/migration.c | 16 ++++++++++++++++
>  migration/savevm.c    |  4 ++++
>  2 files changed, 20 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/migration/migration.c b/migration/migration.c
> index 9e9db26667f1..6b2a8af4231d 100644
> --- a/migration/migration.c
> +++ b/migration/migration.c
> @@ -402,10 +402,26 @@ void migration_incoming_state_destroy(void)
>      struct MigrationIncomingState *mis = migration_incoming_get_current();
>  
>      multifd_recv_cleanup();
> +
>      /*
>       * RAM state cleanup needs to happen after multifd cleanup, because
>       * multifd threads can use some of its states (receivedmap).
> +     *
> +     * This call also needs BQL held since it calls all registered
> +     * load_cleanup SaveVMHandlers and at least the VFIO implementation is
> +     * BQL-sensitive.
> +     *
> +     * In addition to the above, it also performs cleanup of load threads
> +     * thread pool.
> +     * This cleanup operation is BQL-sensitive as it requires unlocking BQL
> +     * so a thread possibly waiting for it could get unblocked and finally
> +     * exit.
> +     * The reason why a load thread may need to hold BQL in the first place
> +     * is because address space modification operations require it.

Hold on...

This almost says exactly why load_cleanup() should _not_ take BQL... rather
than should..

So I had a closer look at the latest code, it's about this:

static void vfio_load_cleanup_load_bufs_thread(VFIOMultifd *multifd)
{
    /* The lock order is load_bufs_mutex -> BQL so unlock BQL here first */
    bql_unlock();
    WITH_QEMU_LOCK_GUARD(&multifd->load_bufs_mutex) {
        while (multifd->load_bufs_thread_running) {
            multifd->load_bufs_thread_want_exit = true;

            qemu_cond_signal(&multifd->load_bufs_buffer_ready_cond);
            qemu_cond_signal(&multifd->load_bufs_iter_done_cond);
            qemu_cond_wait(&multifd->load_bufs_thread_finished_cond,
                           &multifd->load_bufs_mutex);
        }
    }
    bql_lock();
}

It doesn't make much sense to me to take it only because we want to drop it
unconditionally. Can we guarantee the function not taking BQL instead?  I
had a quick look on pmem's pmem_persist() (from libpmem, qemu_ram_msync <-
qemu_ram_block_writeback <- ram_load_cleanup), it looks ok.

So the question is, is it safe to unlock BQL in whatever context (in
coroutines, or in a bottom half)?

If the answer is yes, we could make migration_incoming_state_destroy()
always not taking BQL (and assert(!bql_locked()) instead).

If the answer is no, then vfio_load_cleanup_load_bufs_thread()'s current
version may not work either..

> +     *
> +     * Check proper BQL state here rather than risk possible deadlock later.
>       */
> +    assert(bql_locked());
>      qemu_loadvm_state_cleanup();
>  
>      if (mis->to_src_file) {
> diff --git a/migration/savevm.c b/migration/savevm.c
> index 7c1aa8ad7b9d..3e86b572cfa8 100644
> --- a/migration/savevm.c
> +++ b/migration/savevm.c
> @@ -1986,6 +1986,8 @@ static void *postcopy_ram_listen_thread(void *opaque)
>       * in qemu_file, and thus we must be blocking now.
>       */
>      qemu_file_set_blocking(f, true);
> +
> +    /* TODO: sanity check that only postcopiable data will be loaded here */
>      load_res = qemu_loadvm_state_main(f, mis);
>  
>      /*
> @@ -2046,7 +2048,9 @@ static void *postcopy_ram_listen_thread(void *opaque)
>       * (If something broke then qemu will have to exit anyway since it's
>       * got a bad migration state).
>       */
> +    bql_lock();
>      migration_incoming_state_destroy();
> +    bql_unlock();
>  
>      rcu_unregister_thread();
>      mis->have_listen_thread = false;
> 

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-05 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-04 22:03 [PATCH v6 00/36] Multifd 🔀 device state transfer support with VFIO consumer Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 01/36] migration: Clarify that {load, save}_cleanup handlers can run without setup Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 02/36] thread-pool: Remove thread_pool_submit() function Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 03/36] thread-pool: Rename AIO pool functions to *_aio() and data types to *Aio Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 04/36] thread-pool: Implement generic (non-AIO) pool support Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 05/36] migration: Add MIG_CMD_SWITCHOVER_START and its load handler Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 06/36] migration: Add qemu_loadvm_load_state_buffer() and its handler Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 07/36] migration: postcopy_ram_listen_thread() should take BQL for some calls Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05 12:34   ` Peter Xu [this message]
2025-03-05 15:11     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05 16:15       ` Peter Xu
2025-03-05 16:37         ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-05 16:49           ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 08/36] error: define g_autoptr() cleanup function for the Error type Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 09/36] migration: Add thread pool of optional load threads Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 10/36] migration/multifd: Split packet into header and RAM data Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 11/36] migration/multifd: Device state transfer support - receive side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 12/36] migration/multifd: Make multifd_send() thread safe Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 13/36] migration/multifd: Add an explicit MultiFDSendData destructor Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 14/36] migration/multifd: Device state transfer support - send side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 15/36] migration/multifd: Make MultiFDSendData a struct Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  9:00   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-05 12:43   ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 16/36] migration/multifd: Add multifd_device_state_supported() Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 17/36] migration: Add save_live_complete_precopy_thread handler Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05 12:36   ` Peter Xu
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 18/36] vfio/migration: Add load_device_config_state_start trace event Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 19/36] vfio/migration: Convert bytes_transferred counter to atomic Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 20/36] vfio/migration: Add vfio_add_bytes_transferred() Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  7:44   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 21/36] vfio/migration: Move migration channel flags to vfio-common.h header file Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 22/36] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer support - basic types Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  7:44   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 23/36] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer - add support checking function Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 24/36] vfio/migration: Multifd setup/cleanup functions and associated VFIOMultifd Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  8:03   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 25/36] vfio/migration: Setup and cleanup multifd transfer in these general methods Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  8:30   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-05 16:22   ` Peter Xu
2025-03-05 16:27     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05 16:39       ` Peter Xu
2025-03-05 16:47         ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-05 16:48         ` Peter Xu
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 26/36] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer support - received buffers queuing Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  8:30   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 27/36] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer support - load thread Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  8:31   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 28/36] migration/qemu-file: Define g_autoptr() cleanup function for QEMUFile Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 29/36] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer support - config loading support Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  8:33   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 30/36] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer support - send side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  8:38   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-06  6:47   ` Avihai Horon
2025-03-06 10:15     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-06 10:32       ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-06 13:37         ` Avihai Horon
2025-03-06 14:13           ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-06 14:23             ` Avihai Horon
2025-03-06 14:26               ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-07 10:59                 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 31/36] vfio/migration: Add x-migration-multifd-transfer VFIO property Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  9:21   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-04 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 32/36] vfio/migration: Make x-migration-multifd-transfer VFIO property mutable Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  8:41   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-04 22:04 ` [PATCH v6 33/36] hw/core/machine: Add compat for x-migration-multifd-transfer VFIO property Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:04 ` [PATCH v6 34/36] vfio/migration: Max in-flight VFIO device state buffer count limit Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  9:19   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-05 15:11     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05 16:39       ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-05 16:53         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:04 ` [PATCH v6 35/36] vfio/migration: Add x-migration-load-config-after-iter VFIO property Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 22:04 ` [PATCH v6 36/36] vfio/migration: Update VFIO migration documentation Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05  8:53   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-05  9:29 ` [PATCH v6 00/36] Multifd 🔀 device state transfer support with VFIO consumer Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-05  9:33   ` Avihai Horon
2025-03-05  9:35     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-05  9:38       ` Avihai Horon
2025-03-05 17:45   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-06  6:50     ` Avihai Horon
2025-03-05 16:49 ` [PATCH] migration: Always take BQL for migration_incoming_state_destroy() Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-05 16:53   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-05 16:55     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-07 10:57 ` [PATCH 1/2] vfio/migration: Add also max in-flight VFIO device state buffers size limit Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-07 12:03   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-07 13:45     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-11 13:04       ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-11 14:57         ` Avihai Horon
2025-03-11 15:45           ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-11 16:01             ` Avihai Horon
2025-03-11 16:05               ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-12  7:44                 ` Avihai Horon
2025-04-01 12:26         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-04-02  9:51           ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-04-02 12:40             ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-04-02 13:13               ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-07 10:57 ` [PATCH 2/2] vfio/migration: Use BE byte order for device state wire packets Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-10  7:30   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-10  7:34   ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-10  8:17   ` Avihai Horon
2025-03-10  9:23     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-10 12:53       ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-10 13:39         ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-03-10 12:53     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero

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