From: "Jörg Rödel" <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Gerd Hoffman <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Ani Sinha" <anisinha@redhat.com>, "Alex Graf" <graf@amazon.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Yanan Wang" <wangyanan55@huawei.com>,
"Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
"Laurent Vivier" <lvivier@redhat.com>,
"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
"Vitaly Kuznetsov" <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] hw/misc/vmfwupdate: Introduce hypervisor fw-cfg interface support
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 14:31:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9LeILiEU5GfEHrl@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <sxavsa2i4drnei4kmy6pd4uekk3xaa43njd47jtogar7ui7qm7@n73chaex5ms2>
Hi Gerd,
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 01:05:13PM +0100, Gerd Hoffman wrote:
> // regions_addr points to an array of this structure
> struct vmfwupdate_regions {
> uint64_t size;
> uint64_t src_addr; // source address (before update)
> uint64_t dst_addr; // destination address (after update)
> uint64_t flags; // control bits
> };
>
> // flags
> #define VMFWUPDATE_REGION_FLAG_COPY // data must be copied
> #define VMFWUPDATE_REGION_FLAG_ZERO // dest must be cleared
> #define VMFWUPDATE_REGION_FLAG_MEASURE // data must be measured
>
> (1) is still not covered.
> (2+3) can be handled with FLAG_ZERO regions, with and without
> FLAG_MEASURE.
> (4) Alex already pointed that the cpuid page is special, guess we
> need additional flags for those oages.
That looks better, when the host VMM guarantees the order in which it
translates these regions into VM setup calls, then it is a step
forward. Although there more things to keep in mind, like the guest
policy and SEV status parameters.
> Open question is what we do about IGVM.
>
> One option would be the guest vmfwupdate tool loading and parsing igvm,
> preparing the region list, then invoke the update. Problem is that some
> igvm feaures such as initial register state can not be easily supported
> that way.
>
> We could also expect the hypervisor support igvm, so the guest can
> simply load the file into memory and pass address and size to the
> hypervisor. Either as option, say via VMFWUPDATE_REGION_FLAG_IGVM, or
> mandatory, i.e. scratch the region list and use IGVM exclusively.
This is of course up to the QEMU maintainers to decide, but I want to
highlight that IGVM already solves all the problems mentioned above,
including setting multiple memory regions of different type, special
data pages (cpuid, secrets, id-blob, vmsa) and more. It defines the
order of setup calls the VMM has to invoke for the new context and also
works for multiple platforms like TDX, SNP, non-coco, and in the future
ARM as well.
Regards,
Joerg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-13 13:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-13 12:05 [PATCH v6] hw/misc/vmfwupdate: Introduce hypervisor fw-cfg interface support Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-13 13:31 ` Jörg Rödel [this message]
2025-03-13 14:06 ` Ani Sinha
2025-03-14 11:27 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-14 12:47 ` Alexander Graf
2025-03-14 14:08 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-14 14:50 ` Alexander Graf
2025-03-17 9:56 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-17 17:29 ` Alexander Graf
2025-03-18 7:00 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-18 11:11 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-20 8:34 ` Jörg Rödel
2025-03-21 8:22 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-24 16:08 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-20 13:53 ` Alexander Graf
2025-03-21 3:36 ` Ani Sinha
2025-03-21 8:09 ` Alexander Graf
2025-03-21 9:14 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-20 8:31 ` Jörg Rödel
2025-03-21 10:08 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-21 12:44 ` Ani Sinha
2025-03-24 7:43 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-24 11:12 ` Ani Sinha
2025-03-24 15:48 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-24 16:31 ` Alexander Graf
2025-03-24 17:53 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-24 18:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-25 8:04 ` Alexander Graf
2025-03-26 12:27 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-03-26 15:22 ` Alexander Graf
2025-03-26 21:51 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-04-07 16:21 ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2025-04-08 8:33 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-04-08 21:42 ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2025-04-09 6:21 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-04-10 6:31 ` Ani Sinha
2025-04-10 10:44 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-04-16 11:40 ` Ani Sinha
2025-04-09 11:59 ` Ani Sinha
2025-03-27 12:12 ` Ani Sinha
2025-04-08 8:11 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-05-21 7:50 ` Ani Sinha
2025-03-21 12:45 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-14 15:16 ` Jörg Rödel
2025-03-15 6:08 ` Ani Sinha
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-02-14 15:34 Ani Sinha
2025-02-24 15:47 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-02-25 5:21 ` Ani Sinha
2025-02-25 8:39 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-02-25 9:54 ` Ani Sinha
2025-02-25 10:23 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-02-25 10:28 ` Igor Mammedov
2025-02-25 11:00 ` Gerd Hoffman
2025-02-25 11:33 ` Igor Mammedov
2025-03-13 9:02 ` Jörg Rödel
2025-03-13 9:37 ` Ani Sinha
2025-03-13 10:10 ` Jörg Rödel
2025-03-13 10:32 ` Ani Sinha
2025-03-13 10:59 ` Jörg Rödel
2025-03-13 11:09 ` Ani Sinha
2025-03-13 11:27 ` Jörg Rödel
2025-03-13 11:28 ` Jörg Rödel
2025-03-13 11:56 ` Ani Sinha
2025-03-13 14:53 ` Ani Sinha
2025-03-13 15:39 ` Jörg Rödel
2025-03-13 16:30 ` Alexander Graf
2025-03-13 17:38 ` Jörg Rödel
2025-03-13 17:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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