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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Cc: Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	<qemu-arm@nongnu.org>, <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	<peter.maydell@linaro.org>, <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	<ddutile@redhat.com>, <berrange@redhat.com>, <nathanc@nvidia.com>,
	<mochs@nvidia.com>, <smostafa@google.com>, <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	<wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>, <jiangkunkun@huawei.com>,
	<jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>, <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 03/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add initial infrastructure for smmuv3-accel device
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:10:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9hzmzHfWw18OyGO@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71b73212-3d8f-4c9d-93a4-bf07c0f169e3@redhat.com>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 07:07:52PM +0100, Eric Auger wrote:
> On 3/17/25 6:54 PM, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 04:15:10PM +0100, Eric Auger wrote:
> >> On 3/11/25 3:10 PM, Shameer Kolothum wrote:
> >>> Based on SMMUv3 as a parent device, add a user-creatable smmuv3-accel
> >>> device. In order to support vfio-pci dev assignment with a Guest
> >> guest
> >>> SMMUv3, the physical SMMUv3 has to be configured in nested(S1+s2)
> >> nested (s1+s2)
> >>> mode, with Guest owning the S1 page tables. Subsequent patches will
> >> the guest
> >>> add support for smmuv3-accel to provide this.
> >> Can't this -accel smmu also works with emulated devices? Do we want an
> >> exclusive usage?
> > Is there any benefit from emulated devices working in the HW-
> > accelerated nested translation mode?
> 
> Not really but do we have any justification for using different device
> name in accel mode? I am not even sure that accel option is really
> needed. Ideally the qemu device should be able to detect it is
> protecting a VFIO device, in which case it shall check whether nested is
> supported by host SMMU and then automatically turn accel mode?
> 
> I gave the example of the vfio device which has different class
> implementration depending on the iommufd option being set or not.

Do you mean that we should just create a regular smmuv3 device and
let a VFIO device to turn on this smmuv3's accel mode depending on
its LEGACY/IOMMUFD class?

Another question: how does an emulated device work with a vSMMUv3?
I could imagine that all the accel steps would be bypassed since
!sdev->idev. Yet, the emulated iotlb should cache its translation
so we will need to flush the iotlb, which will increase complexity
as the TLBI command dispatching function will need to be aware what
ASID is for emulated device and what is for vfio device..

Thanks
Nicolin


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-17 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-11 14:10 [RFC PATCH v2 00/20] hw/arm/virt: Add support for user-creatable accelerated SMMUv3 Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/20] backends/iommufd: Introduce iommufd_backend_alloc_viommu Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-12 15:20   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/20] backends/iommufd: Introduce iommufd_vdev_alloc Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-12 15:25   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add initial infrastructure for smmuv3-accel device Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-11 20:13   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-12 15:15   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-17 17:54     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-17 18:07       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-17 19:10         ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2025-03-17 19:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-17 20:19             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-18  9:50               ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-18 18:31               ` Eric Auger
2025-03-18 19:13                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-18 21:22                   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19  0:23                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19  2:15                       ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19 17:00                       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19 17:12                         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-19 17:38                           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-21  0:55                         ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19 17:04                     ` Eric Auger
2025-03-21  0:54                       ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-24 14:52                         ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19  0:31                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19  5:27                   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-24 14:08                   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-18 21:42             ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19 16:45           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19 16:53             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-19 17:26               ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19 17:34                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19 17:41                   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19 17:14             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-19 18:09               ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19 18:34                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-24 14:46                   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-21  1:26                 ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-24 14:59                   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/20] hw/arm/virt: Add support for smmuv3-accel Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-11 20:22   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-12  9:44     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 15:36   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-12 15:46     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 16:13       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-12 16:22         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 16:27           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-12 17:34             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 18:30               ` Eric Auger
2025-03-13  8:26                 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-13 15:22                   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-18 22:49   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19  9:28     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Associate a pxb-pcie bus Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-12 16:07   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-12 16:34     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 16:39       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-12 17:28         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-13 15:21           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-12 16:42       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-13  8:22         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-17 16:57           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-18 22:12   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19  9:26     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-19 16:21       ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19 18:21         ` Eric Auger
2025-03-21  0:59           ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-24 14:56             ` Eric Auger
2025-03-24 15:02               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-24 21:43               ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-20 17:02       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-24  8:19         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-24 13:13           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-24 13:55             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-24 15:34               ` Eric Auger
2025-03-24 16:01             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-24 16:06               ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-24 15:50           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/20] hw/arm/smmu-common: Factor out common helper functions and export Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-12 16:12   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/20] hw/arm/smmu-common: Introduce callbacks for PCIIOMMUOps Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-12 16:23   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-13  8:09     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-17 16:52       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-18  9:47         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 17:10   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Provide get_address_space callback Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-11 20:50   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-12 17:14   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add set/unset_iommu_device callback Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-11 21:07   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-17  8:38     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-17 18:19       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-12 12:52   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Support nested STE install/uninstall support Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-25 18:08   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-25 19:33     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Allocate a vDEVICE object for device Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-18 23:30   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-25 18:13   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Return sysmem if stage-1 is bypassed Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-25 18:47   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Introduce helpers to batch and issue cache invalidations Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-19  1:31   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19  9:48     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-19 16:24       ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19 16:48         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-26 13:38   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 19:16     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-27  7:46       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-27  8:00       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 13:59   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Install nested ste for CFGI_STE Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-26 13:39   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Forward invalidation commands to hw Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-26 14:16   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 19:27     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-27  8:03       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 14:18   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Read host SMMUv3 device info Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-19  2:45   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-26 14:57   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Check idr registers for STE_S1CDMAX and STE_S1STALLD Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-26 17:18   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 19:46     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-27  7:54       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-27  9:11         ` Eric Auger
2025-03-27 13:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/20] hw/arm/smmu-common: Bypass emulated IOTLB for a accel SMMUv3 Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-19  2:52   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-26 17:40   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 19:57     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/20] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Update IORT with multiple smmuv3-accel nodes Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-26 18:14   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 18:50     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-27  9:26       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Enable smmuv3-accel creation Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-19 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/20] hw/arm/virt: Add support for user-creatable accelerated SMMUv3 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-19 17:13   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-25 14:42 ` Eric Auger
2025-03-25 15:43   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-25 18:26     ` Nicolin Chen via
2025-03-25 18:52       ` Eric Auger

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