From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Kashyap Chamarthy" <kchamart@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] docs/firmware: add feature flag for qemu variable store
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 11:37:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9qshApFGwvNAD5F@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <qimb4oxprocd2yz6chamb4a2z3oyuofm2gqwutz3l7jz4me7gi@ze5q2caadazj>
On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 12:30:34PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 11:07:05AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 12:01:51PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > > Signed-off-by: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > docs/interop/firmware.json | 5 ++++-
> > > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/docs/interop/firmware.json b/docs/interop/firmware.json
> > > index 57f55f6c5455..76df1043dae9 100644
> > > --- a/docs/interop/firmware.json
> > > +++ b/docs/interop/firmware.json
> > > @@ -214,13 +214,16 @@
> > > # PL011 UART. @verbose-static is mutually exclusive
> > > # with @verbose-dynamic.
> > > #
> > > +# @qemu-vars: The firmware expects qemu to provide an efi variable
> > > +# store, via "uefi-vars-sysbus" or "uefi-vars-x64" device.
I wonder if 'qemu-vars' is the right name here ? It feels like the specification
for such device is effectively defined by UEFI, with any hypervisor providing a
impl. Perhaps just call it 'uefi-vars-dev' or some name that's relevant for
what EDK2 calls it ?
> >
> > It seems like this would imply mapping.device == memory,
>
> edk2 doesn't care if you load it into flash or memory, both cases will
> work fine. Using flash if we don't actually need it makes things more
> complicated for no good reason, so yes, I'd go write config files with
> mapping.device == memory.
>
> > as if we had
> > mapping.device == flash, then we would need to extend FirmwareFlashMode
> > with an extra option ?
>
> There is 'stateless' already for 'firmware image in r/o flash'.
What's the behaviour of UEFI if build with JSON vars support, but without
QEMU providing any JSON vars backend ? If that happily runs stateless
in that case, then we could reuse the existing 'stateless' mode, without
having compat trouble with older libvirt that don't know about the
'qemu-vars' feature.
We would want to expand the 'stateless' docs to mention that this feature
flag indicates optional support for persistence in that case.
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-19 11:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-19 11:01 [PATCH v2 0/4] [for-10.0] hw/uefi: some bugfixes Gerd Hoffmann
2025-03-19 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] hw/uefi: flush variable store to disk in post load Gerd Hoffmann
2025-03-19 11:57 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-19 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] hw/uefi: fix error handling in uefi_vars_json_save Gerd Hoffmann
2025-03-19 11:58 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-19 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] hw/uefi: fix error handling in uefi_vars_json_load Gerd Hoffmann
2025-03-19 11:59 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-19 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] docs/firmware: add feature flag for qemu variable store Gerd Hoffmann
2025-03-19 11:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-19 11:30 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-03-19 11:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-03-19 11:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-03-19 12:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-19 13:03 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-03-19 13:15 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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