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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Cc: Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	<qemu-arm@nongnu.org>, <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	<peter.maydell@linaro.org>, <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	<ddutile@redhat.com>, <berrange@redhat.com>, <nathanc@nvidia.com>,
	<mochs@nvidia.com>, <smostafa@google.com>, <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	<wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>, <jiangkunkun@huawei.com>,
	<jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>, <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 03/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add initial infrastructure for smmuv3-accel device
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 11:34:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9sORySxEEL0VXMq@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c70fdb0c-ef56-4a52-8591-31df51ff0eec@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 07:09:33PM +0100, Eric Auger wrote:
> > Option means something like this:
> > 	-device smmuv3,accel=on
> > instead of
> > 	-device "smmuv3-accel"
> > ?
> >
> > Yea, I think that's good.

> Yeah actually that's a big debate for not much. From an implementation
> pov that shall not change much. The only doubt I have is if we need to
> conditionnaly expose the MSI RESV regions it is easier to do if we
> detect we have a smmuv3-accel. what the option allows is the auto mode.

Mind elaborating your doubt about the MSI RESV region?

Do you mean how VMS code should tag "accel=on" option and generate
RMR nodes in the IORT table?

> > We certainly can't do case (a): not all TLBI commands gives an "SID"
> > field (so would have to broadcast, i.e. underlying SMMU HW would run
> > commands that were supposed for emulated devices only); in case of
> > vCMDQ, commands for emulated devices would be issued to real HW and

> I am still confused about that. For instance if the guest sends an
> NH_ASID, NH_VA invalidation and it happens both the emulated device and
> VFIO-device share the same cd.asid (same guest iommu domain, which
> practically should not happen) why shouldn't we propagate the
> invalidation to the host. Does the problem come from the usage of vCMDQ
> or would you foresee the same problem with a generic physical SMMU?

Host (HW) would end up with executing commands that were issued for
emulated devices, which impacts performance.

With vCMDQ, QEMU cannot trap command queue because all invalidation
commands will be issued to HW directly from the guest kernel driver.
This includes TLBI and ATC_INV commands. It's probably okay to run
TLBI commands with vCMDQ (again perf impact), while ATC_INV commands
would result in "unkonwn SID" errors or directly ATC_INV timeouts.

Thanks
Nicolin


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-19 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-11 14:10 [RFC PATCH v2 00/20] hw/arm/virt: Add support for user-creatable accelerated SMMUv3 Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/20] backends/iommufd: Introduce iommufd_backend_alloc_viommu Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-12 15:20   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/20] backends/iommufd: Introduce iommufd_vdev_alloc Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-12 15:25   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add initial infrastructure for smmuv3-accel device Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-11 20:13   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-12 15:15   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-17 17:54     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-17 18:07       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-17 19:10         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-17 19:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-17 20:19             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-18  9:50               ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-18 18:31               ` Eric Auger
2025-03-18 19:13                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-18 21:22                   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19  0:23                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19  2:15                       ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19 17:00                       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19 17:12                         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-19 17:38                           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-21  0:55                         ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19 17:04                     ` Eric Auger
2025-03-21  0:54                       ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-24 14:52                         ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19  0:31                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19  5:27                   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-24 14:08                   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-18 21:42             ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19 16:45           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19 16:53             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-19 17:26               ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19 17:34                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19 17:41                   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19 17:14             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-19 18:09               ` Eric Auger
2025-03-19 18:34                 ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2025-03-24 14:46                   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-21  1:26                 ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-24 14:59                   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/20] hw/arm/virt: Add support for smmuv3-accel Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-11 20:22   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-12  9:44     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 15:36   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-12 15:46     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 16:13       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-12 16:22         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 16:27           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-12 17:34             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 18:30               ` Eric Auger
2025-03-13  8:26                 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-13 15:22                   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-18 22:49   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19  9:28     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Associate a pxb-pcie bus Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-12 16:07   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-12 16:34     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 16:39       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-12 17:28         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-13 15:21           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-12 16:42       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-13  8:22         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-17 16:57           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-18 22:12   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19  9:26     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-19 16:21       ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19 18:21         ` Eric Auger
2025-03-21  0:59           ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-24 14:56             ` Eric Auger
2025-03-24 15:02               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-24 21:43               ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-20 17:02       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-24  8:19         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-24 13:13           ` Eric Auger
2025-03-24 13:55             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-24 15:34               ` Eric Auger
2025-03-24 16:01             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-24 16:06               ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-24 15:50           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/20] hw/arm/smmu-common: Factor out common helper functions and export Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-12 16:12   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/20] hw/arm/smmu-common: Introduce callbacks for PCIIOMMUOps Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-12 16:23   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-13  8:09     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-17 16:52       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-18  9:47         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-12 17:10   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Provide get_address_space callback Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-11 20:50   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-12 17:14   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add set/unset_iommu_device callback Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-11 21:07   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-17  8:38     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-17 18:19       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-12 12:52   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Support nested STE install/uninstall support Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-25 18:08   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-25 19:33     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Allocate a vDEVICE object for device Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-18 23:30   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-25 18:13   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Return sysmem if stage-1 is bypassed Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-25 18:47   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Introduce helpers to batch and issue cache invalidations Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-19  1:31   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19  9:48     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-19 16:24       ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-19 16:48         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-26 13:38   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 19:16     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-27  7:46       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-27  8:00       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 13:59   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Install nested ste for CFGI_STE Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-26 13:39   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Forward invalidation commands to hw Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-26 14:16   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 19:27     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-27  8:03       ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 14:18   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Read host SMMUv3 device info Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-19  2:45   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-26 14:57   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/20] hw/arm/smmuv3: Check idr registers for STE_S1CDMAX and STE_S1STALLD Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-26 17:18   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 19:46     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-27  7:54       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-27  9:11         ` Eric Auger
2025-03-27 13:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/20] hw/arm/smmu-common: Bypass emulated IOTLB for a accel SMMUv3 Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-19  2:52   ` Donald Dutile
2025-03-26 17:40   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 19:57     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/20] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Update IORT with multiple smmuv3-accel nodes Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-26 18:14   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-26 18:50     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-27  9:26       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-11 14:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/20] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Enable smmuv3-accel creation Shameer Kolothum via
2025-03-19 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/20] hw/arm/virt: Add support for user-creatable accelerated SMMUv3 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-19 17:13   ` Eric Auger
2025-03-25 14:42 ` Eric Auger
2025-03-25 15:43   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2025-03-25 18:26     ` Nicolin Chen via
2025-03-25 18:52       ` Eric Auger

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