From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
"Yanan Wang" <wangyanan55@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Deprecate the qemu-system-i386 binary
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 13:22:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZEppAum+63dJSvsh@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3198ac7-4569-8903-b6a1-64aee26f8885@redhat.com>
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 02:12:59PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 27/04/2023 10.33, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:31:00AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:28 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > I wonder if we should take this a step further and rename qemu-system-x86_64
> > > > > to qemu-system-x86! Distros can if they wish create symlinks to both
> > > > > qemu-system-i386 and qemu-system-x86_64.
> > > >
> > > > I can't help feeling this just creates a new upgrade burden for distros
> > > > for no obvious win.
> > >
> > > We can create the symlinks on install as well during the deprecation
> > > period. It doesn't have to be done by distros.
> >
> > What's the actual win though ? Why would anyone want to create guests
> > using qemu-system-x86, if both qemu-system-i386 / qemu-system-x86_64
> > still exist indefinitely for backwards compat.
>
> We could deprecate the old wrappers at one point in time, so we would
> finally have a cleaner interface.
At the cost of breaking compat every single script and doc that
referrs to the historical binaries.
I think incompatible changes are worth it, but only if we associate
them with the a approach to qemu system emulator binaries, as that's
where we'll get a compelling benefit. Fiddling around with the
existing binaries is creating pain for little gain IMHO.
> > What does having a
> > qemu-system-x86 add that can't be achieve just though hardlink
> > between the two existing binaries ?
>
> We'd finally have a binary with saner default settings compared to the
> backlevel "pc" machine type that we have as a default now?
On the libvirt side we would have to ensure there was no change in
defaults regardles of what he QEMU binary did.
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-27 12:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-25 13:38 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Deprecate the qemu-system-i386 binary Thomas Huth
2023-04-25 13:38 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] cpu: Add a way to detect 32-bit mode from argv0 Thomas Huth
2023-04-25 13:38 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] target/i386/cpu: Allow to limit the 64-bit binary to 32-bit mode only Thomas Huth
2023-04-25 13:38 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] docs/about/deprecated: Deprecate the qemu-system-i386 binary Thomas Huth
2023-10-06 9:38 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-04-26 10:59 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] " Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-27 8:13 ` Thomas Huth
2023-04-27 8:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-27 8:28 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-27 8:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-27 8:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-04-27 9:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-04-27 12:12 ` Thomas Huth
2023-04-27 12:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-06-19 10:09 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
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