From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>, Fam Zheng <fam@euphon.net>,
Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
libvir-list@redhat.com, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 4/6] migration: Deprecate -incoming <uri>
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:45:21 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZJG7gVTambX/f3p6@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZJGXT4z95dMx0rd7@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 01:10:55PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> In some cases it is worth having a convenience option for user friendliness.
>
> In this case, however, users are already needing to use QMP/HMP on the
> source side to set migration parameters. I think it is reasonable to say
> that doing *exactly* the same with QMP/HMP on the destination side is
> actually more friendly than requiring use of -global on the dest side
> which is different syntax.
The -global parameters also work for the src side for my scripts, so I only
need to attach "-incoming tcp:XXX" for dst cmdline here.
>
> We don't document the way to use -global with migration parameters so
> when people see '-incoming' I think we are steering them into a trap,
> making it look like -incoming is sufficient on its own. Hence that user's
> mistake recently about not setting migration parameters.
>
> Overall I agree with deprecating '-incoming' != 'defer', as I think it
> will better guide users to following the correct steps, as is not a
> usability burden as they're already using QMP/HMP on the source side.
I'd say -global is definitely not for users but for developers. Just like
we keep around HMP - I'm not sure whether it's used in productions, I
thought it was only for developers and we don't deprecate it eagerly.
No strong opinions here if everyone wants to get rid of that, but before
that I hope we can have some kind of cmdline tool that can easily tunnel
qmp commands so whoever developers using pure cmdlines can switch to the
new way easily.
Thanks,
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-20 14:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-12 19:33 [RFC 0/6] Migration deprecated parts Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 1/6] migration: skipped field is really obsolete Juan Quintela
2023-06-20 12:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 17:49 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 2/6] migration: migrate 'inc' command option is deprecated Juan Quintela
2023-06-20 12:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 18:11 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 3/6] migration: migrate 'blk' " Juan Quintela
2023-06-20 12:06 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 18:12 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 4/6] migration: Deprecate -incoming <uri> Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:41 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-12 20:51 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 21:19 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-20 12:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 19:34 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-20 12:10 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-20 14:45 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2023-06-22 8:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-06-22 8:52 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-22 9:22 ` Thomas Huth
2023-06-22 15:25 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-22 19:37 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-22 9:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-06-22 10:01 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-22 15:24 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-22 16:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-06-22 9:59 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 15:54 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-22 16:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 19:20 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-23 7:17 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-23 14:34 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-23 8:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-23 14:51 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-23 15:03 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-21 7:08 ` Thomas Huth
2023-06-22 2:22 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-22 8:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-06-22 18:12 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 5/6] migration: Deprecate block migration Juan Quintela
2023-06-21 11:45 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-22 18:17 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 6/6] migration: Deprecated old compression method Juan Quintela
2023-06-21 7:14 ` Thomas Huth
2023-06-22 19:21 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-21 10:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 19:32 ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-13 7:48 ` [RFC 0/6] Migration deprecated parts Jiri Denemark
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