From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: gudkov.andrei@huawei.com
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com, leobras@redhat.com,
eblake@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
Yong Huang <huangy81@chinatelecom.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] migration/calc-dirty-rate: millisecond precision period
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 12:53:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZMk4bxl+JhDFcYLS@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZMkc4YTUNU3gcOwB@DESKTOP-0LHM7NF.china.huawei.com>
On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 05:55:29PM +0300, gudkov.andrei@huawei.com wrote:
> Hmmm, such underestimation looks strange to me. I am willing to test
> page-sampling and see whether its quality can be improved. Do you have
> any specific suggestions on the application to use as a workload?
I could have had a wrong impression here, sorry.
I played again with the page sampling approach, and that's actually pretty
decent..
I had that impression probably based on the fact that by default we chose 2
pages out of 1000-ish (consider workloads having 100-ish memory updates
where no sample page falls into it), and I do remember in some cases of my
test setups quite some time ago, it shows totally wrong numbers. But maybe
I had a wrong test, or wrong memory.
Now thinking about it, for random/seq on not so small memory ranges, that
seems to all work. For very small ones spread over it goes to the random
case.
>
> If it turns out that page-sampling is not an option, then performance
> impact of the dirty-bitmap must be improved somehow. Maybe it makes
> sense to split memory into 4GiB chunks and measure dirty page rate
> independently for each of the chunks (without enabling page
> protections for memory outside of the currently processed chunk).
> But the downsides are that 1) total measurement time will increase
> proportionally by number of chunks 2) dirty page rate will be
> overestimated.
>
> But actually I am still hoping on page sampling. Since my goal is to
> roughly predict what can be migrated and what cannot be, I would prefer
> to keep predictor as lite as possible, even at the cost of
> (overestimation) error.
Yes I also hope that works as you said.
Thanks,
--
Peter Xu
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Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-29 8:59 [PATCH] migration/calc-dirty-rate: millisecond precision period Andrei Gudkov via
2023-07-06 19:23 ` Peter Xu
2023-07-11 12:38 ` gudkov.andrei--- via
2023-07-17 19:08 ` Peter Xu
2023-07-31 14:51 ` gudkov.andrei--- via
2023-07-31 20:06 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-01 14:55 ` gudkov.andrei--- via
2023-08-01 16:53 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2023-08-01 17:09 ` Peter Xu
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