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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: ThinerLogoer <logoerthiner1@163.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] softmmu/physmem: fallback to opening guest RAM file as readonly in a MAP_PRIVATE mapping
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 12:16:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNZez9ICBBf+D/d2@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <996a69ff-e2dc-0ed0-2ac8-33fd53bd02c2@redhat.com>

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 05:26:24PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> I just started looking into the origins of "-mem-path".
> 
> Originally c902760fb2 ("Add option to use file backed guest memory"):
> 
> * Without MAP_POPULATE support, we use MAP_PRIVATE
> * With MAP_POPULATE support we use MAP_PRIVATE if mem_prealloc was not
>   defined.
> 
> It was only used for hugetlb. The shared memory case didn't really matter:
> they just needed a way to get hugetlb pages into the VM. Opening the file
> R/W even with MAP_PRIVATE kind-of made sense in that case, it was an
> exclusive owner.
> 
> Discarding of RAM was not very popular back then I guess: virtio-mem didn't
> exist, virtio-balloon doesn't even handle hugetlb today really, postcopy
> didn't exist.
> 
> 
> I guess that's why nobody really cared about "-mem-path" MAP_PRIVATE vs.
> MAP_SHARED semantics: just get hugetlb pages into the VM somehow.
> 
> Nowadays, "-mem-path" always defaults to MAP_PRIVATE. For the original
> hugetlb use case, it's still good enough. For anything else, I'm not so
> sure.

Ok this answers my other question then on the compat bit.. thanks.  Feel
free to ignore there.

But then I'd lean back towards simply adding a fdperm=; that seems the
simplest, since even if with a compat bit, we still face risk of breaking
-mem-path users for anyone using new machine types.

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-11 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07 19:07 [PATCH v1 0/3] softmmu/physmem: file_ram_open() readonly improvements David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 19:07 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] softmmu/physmem: fallback to opening guest RAM file as readonly in a MAP_PRIVATE mapping David Hildenbrand
2023-08-08 21:01   ` Peter Xu
2023-08-09  5:39     ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-09  9:20     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-09 15:15       ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10 14:19         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 17:06           ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-10 21:24             ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11  5:49               ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-11 14:31                 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-12  6:21                   ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-22 13:35                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 19:00                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-12  5:18                   ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-17  9:07                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 14:30                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 14:37                         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 14:37                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 14:45                             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 14:47                               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 14:41                       ` Peter Xu
2023-08-17 15:02                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 15:13                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-17 15:15                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 15:25                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 15:31                           ` Peter Xu
2023-08-17 15:43                             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 13:46                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 13:48                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 14:59               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 15:26                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 16:16                   ` Peter Xu [this message]
2023-08-11 16:17                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 16:22                       ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 16:25                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 16:54                           ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 17:39                             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 21:07                               ` Peter Xu
2023-08-21 12:20                   ` Igor Mammedov
2023-08-11 15:47                 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-17 13:42           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 13:45             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 13:37   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 13:44     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 19:07 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] softmmu/physmem: fail creation of new files in file_ram_open() with readonly=true David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 19:07 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] softmmu/physmem: never return directories from file_ram_open() David Hildenbrand
2023-08-08 17:26 ` Re:[PATCH v1 0/3] softmmu/physmem: file_ram_open() readonly improvements ThinerLogoer
2023-08-10 11:11   ` [PATCH " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-08-10 16:35     ` ThinerLogoer

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