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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: ThinerLogoer <logoerthiner1@163.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] softmmu/physmem: fallback to opening guest RAM file as readonly in a MAP_PRIVATE mapping
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 12:54:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNZn29wEXUyD5Cc2@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b1630542-475a-f5de-bf79-f6519e01a350@redhat.com>

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 06:25:14PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 11.08.23 18:22, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 06:17:05PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > We wouldn't touch "-mem-path".
> > 
> > But still the same issue when someone uses -object memory-backend-file for
> > hugetlb, mapping privately, expecting ram discard to work?
> > 
> > Basically I see that example as, "hugetlb" in general made the private
> > mapping over RW file usable, so forbidden that anywhere may take a risk.
> 
> These users can be directed to using hugetlb
> 
> a) using MAP_SHARED
> b) using memory-backend-memfd, if MAP_PRIVATE is desired
> 
> Am I missing any important use case? Are we being a bit to careful about
> virtio-balloon and postcopy simply not being available for these corner
> cases?

The current immediate issue is not really mem=rw + fd=rw + private case
(which was a known issue), but how to make mem=rw + fd=ro + private work
for ThinnerBloger, iiuc.

I'd just think it safer to expose that cap to solve problem A (vm
templating) without affecting problem B (fallcate-over-private not working
right), when B is uncertain.

I'm also copy Daniel & libvirt list in case there's quick comment from
there. Say, maybe libvirt never use private mapping on hugetlb files over
memory-backend-file at all, then it's probably fine.

In all cases, you and Igor should have the final grasp; no stand on a
strong opinon from my side.

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-11 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07 19:07 [PATCH v1 0/3] softmmu/physmem: file_ram_open() readonly improvements David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 19:07 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] softmmu/physmem: fallback to opening guest RAM file as readonly in a MAP_PRIVATE mapping David Hildenbrand
2023-08-08 21:01   ` Peter Xu
2023-08-09  5:39     ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-09  9:20     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-09 15:15       ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10 14:19         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 17:06           ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-10 21:24             ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11  5:49               ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-11 14:31                 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-12  6:21                   ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-22 13:35                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 19:00                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-12  5:18                   ` ThinerLogoer
2023-08-17  9:07                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 14:30                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 14:37                         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 14:37                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 14:45                             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 14:47                               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 14:41                       ` Peter Xu
2023-08-17 15:02                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 15:13                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-17 15:15                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 15:25                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 15:31                           ` Peter Xu
2023-08-17 15:43                             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 13:46                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 13:48                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 14:59               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 15:26                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 16:16                   ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 16:17                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 16:22                       ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 16:25                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 16:54                           ` Peter Xu [this message]
2023-08-11 17:39                             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 21:07                               ` Peter Xu
2023-08-21 12:20                   ` Igor Mammedov
2023-08-11 15:47                 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-17 13:42           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 13:45             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17 13:37   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-17 13:44     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 19:07 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] softmmu/physmem: fail creation of new files in file_ram_open() with readonly=true David Hildenbrand
2023-08-07 19:07 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] softmmu/physmem: never return directories from file_ram_open() David Hildenbrand
2023-08-08 17:26 ` Re:[PATCH v1 0/3] softmmu/physmem: file_ram_open() readonly improvements ThinerLogoer
2023-08-10 11:11   ` [PATCH " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-08-10 16:35     ` ThinerLogoer

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