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From: Jon Doron <arilou@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Brennan <stephen.s.brennan@oracle.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, linux-debuggers@vger.kernel.org,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Concerns regarding e17bebd049 ("dump: Set correct vaddr for ELF dump")
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 10:49:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZQqj9tFS7cLMTkHv@jondnuc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6nqxdth.fsf@oracle.com>

Hi Stephen,

Like you have said the reason is as I wrote in the commit message, 
without "fixing" the vaddr GDB is messing up mapping and working with 
the generated core file.

This patch is almost 4 years old, perhaps some changes to GDB has been 
introduced to resolve this, I have not checked since then.

As I'm no longer using this feature and have not worked and tested it 
in a long while, so I have no obligations to this change, but perhaps
someone else might be using it...

-- Jon.

On 19/09/2023, Stephen Brennan wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I've started working on better support and documentation around
>hypervisor vmcores in the Drgn debugger[1]. Of course there's quite a
>lot of different implementations out there, but recently I'm looking at
>Qemu kdump and ELF vmcores generated via dump-guest-memory, and one
>thing caught my eye. I generated a ELF vmcore without the paging option
>enabled, and without the guest note loaded, and the resulting core
>dump's program header looked like this:
>
>$ eu-readelf -l dumpfile2
>Program Headers:
>  Type           Offset   VirtAddr           PhysAddr           FileSiz  MemSiz   Flg Align
>  NOTE           0x000168 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0x001980 0x001980     0x0
>  LOAD           0x001ae8 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0x80000000 0x80000000     0x0
>  LOAD           0x80001ae8 0x00000000fffc0000 0x00000000fffc0000 0x040000 0x040000     0x0
>
>In particular, the "VirtAddr" field for the loadable segment shows a
>confusing address - it appears to reuse the segment's physical address,
>despite the fact that there's no actual corresponding mapping.
>
>By comparison, the /proc/kcore and /proc/vmcore ELF vmcores use the
>VirtAddr in the program header to represent the real virtual memory
>mappings in use by the kernel. Debuggers can directly use these without
>needing to walk page tables. If there is no virtual memory mapping
>information available, I would have expected a placeholder value such as
>0000... or FFFF... to take the place of VirtAddr here so a debugger can
>detect the lack of virtual mappings and know that it needs to use
>architecture-specific details (and the vmcoreinfo) to find the page
>tables and accurately determine memory mappings. As it is, this program
>header seems to advertise to a debugger, "yes, we have the virtual
>memory mappings" when in fact, that's not the case.
>
>It seems that this behavior was introduced in e17bebd049 ("dump: Set
>correct vaddr for ELF dump")[2], a small commit I'll reproduce below.
>The justification seems to be that it fixes an issue reading the vmcore
>with GDB, but I wonder if that's not a GDB bug which should have been
>fixed with them? If GDB aims to support ELF kernel core dumps,
>presumably it should be handling physical addresses separately from
>virtual addresses. And if GDB doesn't aim for this, but you'd like to
>con it into reading your core dump, presumably the onus is on you to
>edit the ELF VirtAddr field to suit your needs? It should be QEMU's
>primary goal to produce a *correct* vmcore, not work around limitations
>or bugs in GDB.
>
>I'd like to propose reverting this, since it makes it impossible to
>interpret QEMU ELF vmcores, unless you discard all the virtual addresses
>in the program headers, and unconditionally do all the page table walks
>yourself. But I wanted to see if there was some justification for this
>behavior that I missed.
>
>Thanks,
>Stephen
>
>[1]: https://github.com/osandov/drgn
>[2]: https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20181225125344.4482-1-arilou@gmail.com/
>
>---
>
>commit e17bebd049d78f489c2cff755e2b66a0536a156e
>Author: Jon Doron <arilou@gmail.com>
>Date:   Wed Jan 9 10:22:03 2019 +0200
>
>    dump: Set correct vaddr for ELF dump
>
>    vaddr needs to be equal to the paddr since the dump file represents the
>    physical memory image.
>
>    Without setting vaddr correctly, GDB would load all the different memory
>    regions on top of each other to vaddr 0, thus making GDB showing the wrong
>    memory data for a given address.
>
>    Signed-off-by: Jon Doron <arilou@gmail.com>
>    Message-Id: <20190109082203.27142-1-arilou@gmail.com>
>    Reviewed-by: Marc-André Lureau <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
>    Tested-by: Marc-André Lureau <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
>    Acked-by: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
>
>diff --git a/dump.c b/dump.c
>index ef1d8025c9..107a67165a 100644
>--- a/dump.c
>+++ b/dump.c
>@@ -192,7 +192,7 @@ static void write_elf64_load(DumpState *s, MemoryMapping *memory_mapping,
>     phdr.p_paddr = cpu_to_dump64(s, memory_mapping->phys_addr);
>     phdr.p_filesz = cpu_to_dump64(s, filesz);
>     phdr.p_memsz = cpu_to_dump64(s, memory_mapping->length);
>-    phdr.p_vaddr = cpu_to_dump64(s, memory_mapping->virt_addr);
>+    phdr.p_vaddr = cpu_to_dump64(s, memory_mapping->virt_addr) ?: phdr.p_paddr;
>
>     assert(memory_mapping->length >= filesz);
>
>@@ -216,7 +216,8 @@ static void write_elf32_load(DumpState *s, MemoryMapping *memory_mapping,
>     phdr.p_paddr = cpu_to_dump32(s, memory_mapping->phys_addr);
>     phdr.p_filesz = cpu_to_dump32(s, filesz);
>     phdr.p_memsz = cpu_to_dump32(s, memory_mapping->length);
>-    phdr.p_vaddr = cpu_to_dump32(s, memory_mapping->virt_addr);
>+    phdr.p_vaddr =
>+        cpu_to_dump32(s, memory_mapping->virt_addr) ?: phdr.p_paddr;
>
>     assert(memory_mapping->length >= filesz);
>
>diff --git a/scripts/dump-guest-memory.py b/scripts/dump-guest-memory.py
>index 198cd0fe40..2c587cbefc 100644
>--- a/scripts/dump-guest-memory.py
>+++ b/scripts/dump-guest-memory.py
>@@ -163,6 +163,7 @@ def add_segment(self, p_type, p_paddr, p_size):
>         phdr = get_arch_phdr(self.endianness, self.elfclass)
>         phdr.p_type = p_type
>         phdr.p_paddr = p_paddr
>+        phdr.p_vaddr = p_paddr
>         phdr.p_filesz = p_size
>         phdr.p_memsz = p_size
>         self.segments.append(phdr)


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-20  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-19 17:39 Concerns regarding e17bebd049 ("dump: Set correct vaddr for ELF dump") Stephen Brennan
2023-09-20  7:49 ` Jon Doron [this message]
2023-09-20 17:35   ` Stephen Brennan
2023-09-20 17:43     ` Stephen Brennan
2023-09-22  3:06       ` Dave Young
2023-09-21  7:49     ` Laszlo Ersek

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