From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10E3FE7B604 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2023 12:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qo1ML-0006l4-C1; Wed, 04 Oct 2023 08:52:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qo1LZ-0005oo-P3 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2023 08:51:28 -0400 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.133.124]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qo1LY-0007Zv-3r for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2023 08:51:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1696423883; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=2Es/IIpNQpWFsdWkKffxPEHtdOGd5sJ1pCFd4m7foHM=; b=UgI9cxDuYTF+fNiyFNBo0HCrqXDYWcbORznayjCMl+6E0PA5Zyd1oDYm6NNKokoj9piUi4 S3abWDJHd/qpPpt29ccCV/g68dWYSSaChX5vMtOFn+LgCxR+jHPBhfPWyafe80+S2Gy+Qd AGccUNK36RrQhMtPYImuexfTnBLpzdQ= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mimecast-mx02.redhat.com [66.187.233.88]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-312-2WdWGS5kPTSKh1koGrSisA-1; Wed, 04 Oct 2023 08:51:05 -0400 X-MC-Unique: 2WdWGS5kPTSKh1koGrSisA-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E3B08039C8; Wed, 4 Oct 2023 12:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.42.28.44]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0DBF1006B48; Wed, 4 Oct 2023 12:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 13:51:01 +0100 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= To: Thomas Huth Cc: Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-riscv@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system' Message-ID: References: <20231004090629.37473-1-philmd@linaro.org> <85be2979-c0ca-3eb4-dae9-bbabf256c201@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <85be2979-c0ca-3eb4-dae9-bbabf256c201@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9 (2022-11-12) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.3 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=berrange@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 02:37:14PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote: > On 04/10/2023 14.33, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 11:06:15AM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > > > This series finishes the cleanup which remove the confusion > > > of using 'softmmu' when we really mean 'system emulation', > > > as opposition to 'user emulation'. > > > > Am I mis-understanding what you mean by 'finishes' here, as > > I see many references to softmmu remaining > > > > $ git grep softmmu | wc -l > > 270 > > > > In particular under configs/ > > > > I was also hoping it meant that we'd be changing configure > > to allow > > > > configure --target-list=x86_64-system > > > > though the lazy side of me would like > > > > configure --target-list=x86_64-vm > > > > for less typing > > Maybe we should also bikeshed about the naming first... "system" is a quite > overloaded word in this context already, and "vm" sounds rather like > hardware-accelerated stuff ... what about using something like "sysemu"? Or > "fullsys" for "full system emulation" (in contrast to "user space"-only > emulation)? Simply 'machine' feels like an option, to avoid suggesting a bias towards either virtualization or emulation. With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|