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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Claudio Fontana" <cfontana@suse.de>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-riscv@nongnu.org,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system'
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 14:53:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZR1uWXEqcyPxsV3g@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfZBTZZvcSPcMSRLWscyEz7B-2h9g28FJx7t7Ggux6E9cA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 03:49:31PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 3:41 PM Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/4/23 14:37, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > > On 04/10/2023 14.33, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > >> Am I mis-understanding what you mean by 'finishes' here, as
> > >> I see many references to softmmu remaining
> > >> In particular under configs/
> > >>
> > >> I was also hoping it meant that we'd be changing configure
> > >> to allow
> > >>
> > >>      configure --target-list=x86_64-system
> > >>      configure --target-list=x86_64-vm
> > >>
> > >> for less typing
> > >
> > > Maybe we should also bikeshed about the naming first... "system" is a quite
> > > overloaded word in this context already, and "vm" sounds rather like
> > > hardware-accelerated stuff ... what about using something like "sysemu"? Or
> > > "fullsys" for "full system emulation" (in contrast to "user space"-only
> > > emulation)?
> 
> I agree that changing other remnants should be done right
> after this patch, for example $softmmu in configure. Changing
> all targets is a very large and very user-visible change, it is
> required but it should be planned very well.
> 
> As to the actual target names, I think system is the only
> consistent choice since we have --enable/--disable-system
> (as pointed out by Claudio) and qemu-system-*.  sysemu
> may make a little more sense in the codebase (we have
> include/sysemu after all), but maybe that ship has sailed
> since we have many occurrences of "system", for example
> system_ss and other related sourcesets.

Yep, I agree with that view now, lets stick with 'system'.

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-04 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-04  9:06 [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 01/13] softmmu/trace-events: Fix a typo Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 02/13] travis-ci: Correct invalid mentions of 'softmmu' by 'system' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 03/13] cpu: Correct invalid mentions of 'softmmu' by 'system-mode' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 04/13] fuzz: Correct invalid mentions of 'softmmu' by 'system' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:22   ` Alexander Bulekov
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 05/13] tcg: Correct invalid mentions of 'softmmu' by 'system-mode' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 06/13] accel: Rename accel_softmmu* -> accel_system* Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 07/13] gdbstub: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04 15:23   ` Alex Bennée
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 08/13] semihosting: Rename softmmu_FOO_user() -> uaccess_FOO_user() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 09/13] target/i386: Rename i386_softmmu_kvm_ss -> i386_kvm_ss Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 10/13] hw/virtio/meson: Rename softmmu_virtio_ss -> system_virtio_ss Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 11/13] meson: Rename softmmu_mods -> system_mods Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 12/13] meson: Rename target_softmmu_arch -> target_system_arch Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 13/13] system: Rename softmmu/ directory as system/ Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04 12:03   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04 12:46     ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-10-04 12:33 ` [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system' Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-04 12:37   ` Thomas Huth
2023-10-04 12:51     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-04 13:41     ` Claudio Fontana
2023-10-04 13:49       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-10-04 13:53         ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2023-10-06  7:49           ` Thomas Huth
2023-10-04 14:06         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04 13:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-10-04 13:26   ` Thomas Huth

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