From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C4DFE80AB2 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qlVZw-00025r-Qt; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:31:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qlVZr-00025L-IH for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:31:47 -0400 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.133.124]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qlVZg-0006ml-1t for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:31:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1695825095; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=zEvfcI2WxVkgjVgh6pWb550RWrrD8Qo5GZ54mmr8R4U=; b=KEcQLyw+yO+27HCOYirJNDIgochRBj8t3FA2dD5Ue1WPKzCD12T69SbyFyjTgqh3vQ0Yd0 HCw7W0BNZnITP8KDCEWGMmSBk9UPxJPSvMHk6BiEO5SS8nsz4Or2ADG4Fp4yaqema3ITPL 3E5wpPUXrRAKkeuo6USaMlZ/ZXsD6As= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mimecast-mx02.redhat.com [66.187.233.88]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-144-jHxsgO6yO36_ekrKlBx_fA-1; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:31:33 -0400 X-MC-Unique: jHxsgO6yO36_ekrKlBx_fA-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE4CE85A5BE; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.42.28.77]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76BC31055466; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 15:31:28 +0100 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= To: Claudio Fontana Cc: Juan Quintela , Paolo Bonzini , Peter Maydell , Peter Xu , Fabiano Rosas , Steve Sistare , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= Subject: Re: migration maintenance, governance [Was: Re: [PATCH V4 0/2] migration file URI] Message-ID: References: <1688135108-316997-1-git-send-email-steven.sistare@oracle.com> <1290963e-9f63-fc70-6729-d355d247c2fd@linaro.org> <2f5b9774-e089-3606-905a-8b991dcc5e87@suse.de> <9833202a-8060-1e81-208e-4e240279c298@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <9833202a-8060-1e81-208e-4e240279c298@suse.de> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9 (2022-11-12) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.3 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=berrange@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 03:14:29PM +0200, Claudio Fontana wrote: > On 9/13/23 15:00, Claudio Fontana wrote: > > On 8/30/23 15:09, Claudio Fontana wrote: > >> On 8/22/23 15:25, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > >>> Hi Claudio, > >>> > >>> On 22/8/23 14:00, Claudio Fontana wrote: > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> this series is all reviewed, > >>>> > >>>> and is needed as a precondition for further work to improve dramatically the performance of virsh save, virsh restore > >>>> when migrating to disk, can it be merged? > >>> > >>> $ ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl -f migration/meson.build > >>> Juan Quintela (maintainer:Migration) > >>> Peter Xu (reviewer:Migration) > >>> Leonardo Bras (reviewer:Migration) > >>> qemu-devel@nongnu.org (open list:All patches CC here) > >>> > >>> One maintainer, one single point of failure. When the > >>> maintainer is busy or offline (vacations?) then everybody > >>> is stuck. > >>> > >>> This is usually solved by adding co-maintainers. > >>> > >>> Juan, would you accept having co-maintainers helping you > >>> dealing with the merge process? I'm not volunteering, but > >>> this can be a good opportunity to make a formal request to > >>> the community. > >> > >> I would like to highlight to the QEMU community here how important this is for SUSE, > >> > >> to see progress for all the series in the migration area that are currently still waiting and competing for attention. > >> > >> The specific features and improvements we are developing or helping to review are a priority for us, > >> and we are concerned about the rate of progress with the existing governance processes. > >> > >> Fabiano is investing a lot of his attention to this area, with features, bugfixes and reviews, > >> but of course it is up to the community as a whole to address the issue so that reviewed work is merged. > >> > >> My attempt here is to make sure that it is recognized as a problem, so it can be hopefully be addressed by the community in a timely fashion, > >> and we can all benefit from the already developed and reviewed work that is pending. > >> > > > > Hi Juan, any comments? Would additional help for co-maintenance of live migration help? > > How can we make things proceed? > > > > From our (SUSE) side we are willing to help as much as we can, and all options are open, > > whatever it takes to get the multiple series currently waiting to flow again. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Claudio > > Hi any news here? > > We continue to see the migration area of QEMU as basically blocked; > > there are a number of reviewed series out and little progress in merging them, > as well as a number of improvements not posted to the list at all due to the situation being completely bottlenecked. > > Would a co-maintenance of migration/ from Fabiano be an option? > > Should we organize a call to discuss this if the mailing list does not suffice to discuss this topic? FWIW, in response to your previous mail, I had suggested to Peter Xu in private that he would make a good candidate of co-maintainer for migration, given he is already a nominated reviewer and has been actively reviewing migration patches for a long while. Migration did have 2 maintainers until earlier in this year when David Gilbert moved on to other things, and I think we can all see that this has had an unfortunate impact on productivity in the migration subsystem that needs to be solved. With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|