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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 16:09:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZSWvYgKcGXlucXx6@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878r8ajngg.fsf@pond.sub.org>

Hi, Markus,

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 09:18:23PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:

[...]

> >> The point I was trying to make is this.  Before the patch, we reject
> >> attempts to set the property value to null.  Afterwards, we accept them,
> >> i.e. the patch loses "reject null property value".  If this loss is
> >> undesirable, we better replace it with suitable hand-written code.
> >
> > I don't even know how to set it to NULL before.. as it can only be accessed
> > via cmdline "-global" as mentioned above, which must be a string anyway.
> > So I assume this is not an issue.
> 
> Something like
> 
>     {"execute": "migrate-set-parameters",
>      "arguments": {"tls-authz": null}}
> 
> Hmm, crashes in migrate_params_apply(), which is a bug.  I'm getting
> more and more suspicious about user-facing migration code...

Did you apply patch 1 of this series?

https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20230905162335.235619-2-peterx@redhat.com/

QMP "migrate-set-parameters" does not go via migration_properties, so even
if we change handling of migration_properties, it shouldn't yet affect the
QMP interface of that.

> 
> If the migration object is accessible with qom-set, then that's another
> way to assign null values.

I see what you meant.  IMHO we just don't need to worry on breaking that as
I am not aware of anyone using that to set migration parameters, and I
think the whole idea of migration_properties is for debugging.  The only
legal way an user should set migration parameters should be via QMP, afaik.

> In my "QAPI string visitors crashes" memo, I demonstrated that the crash
> on funny property type predates your series.  You merely add another
> instance.  Moreover, crashing -global is less serious than a crashing
> monitor command, because only the latter can take down a running guest.
> Can't see why your series needs to wait for a fix of the crash bug.
> Makes sense?

What's your suggestion to move on with this series without a fix for that
crash bug?

I started this series with making tls_* all strings (rather than StrOrNull)
and that actually worked out, mostly.  We switched to StrOrNull just
because we think it's cleaner and 100% not breaking anyone (even though I
still don't think the other way will).  I don't see how I can proceed this
series without fixing this visitor issue but keep using StrOrNull.

Please don't worry on blocking my work: it won't anymore.  The thing I need is:

https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20230905193802.250440-1-peterx@redhat.com/

While this whole series is just paving way for it.  If I can't get
immediate results out of this series, I'll just go with the triplications,
leaving all the rest for later.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-10 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-05 16:23 [PATCH v3 0/4] qapi/migration: Dedup migration parameter objects and fix tls-authz crash Peter Xu
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] migration/qmp: Fix crash on setting tls-authz with null Peter Xu
2023-09-28  4:47   ` Michael Tokarev
2023-09-28  5:36     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-28  6:56       ` Michael Tokarev
2023-10-04 13:58   ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-16  6:05   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] tests/migration-test: Add a test for null parameter setups Peter Xu
2023-10-04 13:58   ` Juan Quintela
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters Peter Xu
2023-09-26 20:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-02 19:52     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-09 12:25       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-10 15:05         ` Peter Xu
2023-10-10 19:18           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-10 20:09             ` Peter Xu [this message]
2023-10-11  4:28               ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-11 14:21                 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-12 19:28                   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-13  5:36                     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-31 11:08                       ` Juan Quintela
2023-11-02 14:25                         ` Configuring migration (was: [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters) Markus Armbruster
2023-11-02 18:05                           ` Peter Xu
2023-11-14  7:27                             ` Configuring migration Markus Armbruster
2023-11-14 10:20                               ` Juan Quintela
2023-11-14  9:13                           ` Configuring migration (was: [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters) Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-14  9:53                             ` Configuring migration Markus Armbruster
2023-11-14  9:55                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-14 10:28                             ` Juan Quintela
2023-11-14 10:34                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-14 10:42                                 ` Juan Quintela
2023-11-14 10:45                                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-12 15:58                 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] migration/qapi: Replace @MigrateSetParameters with @MigrationParameters Peter Xu
2023-10-13  5:41                   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-05 16:23 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] migration/qapi: Drop @MigrationParameter enum Peter Xu
2023-09-06  4:42   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-09-06  9:00     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-06 10:14       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-09-06 10:46         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-26 19:05           ` Peter Xu
2023-09-26 20:43   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-02 20:42     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-16  6:29       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-16 16:16         ` Peter Xu
2023-10-16 17:36           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-09-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] qapi/migration: Dedup migration parameter objects and fix tls-authz crash Markus Armbruster
2023-09-26 17:06   ` Peter Xu
2023-09-26 20:03     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-16  7:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-16 16:29   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-17  6:32     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-17 15:28       ` Peter Xu
2023-10-18  5:38         ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-25 13:17       ` QAPI doc generator improvements (was: [PATCH v3 0/4] qapi/migration: Dedup migration parameter objects and fix tls-authz crash) Markus Armbruster

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