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From: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/16] target: Make 'cpu-qom.h' really target agnostic
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:08:31 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZTKl/y4yxkli1pqy@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94280b39-a331-003d-f227-38c3e1b94434@linaro.org>

Hi Philippe,

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 01:30:50PM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 13:30:50 +0200
> From: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/16] target: Make 'cpu-qom.h' really target
>  agnostic
> 
> Hi Zhao,
> 
> On 20/10/23 07:50, Zhao Liu wrote:
> > Hi Philippe,
> > 
> > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 04:00:59PM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> > > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 16:00:59 +0200
> > > From: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org>
> > > Subject: [PATCH v2 00/16] target: Make 'cpu-qom.h' really target agnostic
> > > X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.41.0
> > > 
> > > Since v1:
> > > - Added R-b tags
> > > - Addressed Richard comments
> > > - Postponed OBJECT_DECLARE_CPU_TYPE() changes
> > > 
> > > A heterogeneous machine must be able to instantiate CPUs
> > > from different architectures.
> > 
> > Does this mean the different ISA cores in heterogeneous machine?
> 
> Yes. Currently the ARM target already allows you to do that
> (multiple ISA cores within the same architecture), see the
> xlnx-zcu102 and fby35 machines.

Okay, I'll have a look at it.

> 
> > And is this case for TCG?
> 
> This is *only* for TCG. I expect hardware accel + TCG to be
> theoretically possible, but no interest has been shown for
> it. Anyhow this requires heterogeneous TCG as a first step.

Thanks, got it.

> 
> > > In order to do that, the
> > > common hw/ code has to access to the QOM CPU definitions
> > > from various architecture.
> > 
> > About this kind of heterogeneous machine with multiple CPUs, is there
> > any initial configuration command line example?
> 
> I'm prototyping in plain C but our plan is to start with a
> QMP prototype. Command line configuration is not an option,
> we decided to ignore it. I'll describe that better in a RFC
> document I should post soon.

Looking forward to your RFC!

For accel, I am currently working in this direction (to convert all CPU
topology levels to devices and to create heterogeneous topology via
"-device") as the following:

-device cpu-socket,id=sock0 \
-device cpu-die,id=die0,parent=sock0 \
-device cpu-die,id=die1,parent=sock0 \
-device cpu-cluster,id=cluster0,parent=die0 \
-device cpu-cluster,id=cluster1,parent=die0 \
-device x86-intel-core,id=core0,parent=cluster0,threads=3 \
-device x86-intel-atom,id=core1,parent=cluster1,threads=2 \
-device x86-intel-core,id=core2,parent=cluster0,threads=3

At present, I have a prototype and am sorting out the RFC.

From your description, I understand that we have no conflict.
Also welcome your thoughts and hope that I can go in the same
direction with you. ;-)

Regards,
Zhao



      reply	other threads:[~2023-10-20 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-13 14:00 [PATCH v2 00/16] target: Make 'cpu-qom.h' really target agnostic Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] target: Unify QOM style Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:24   ` Richard Henderson
2023-10-20  5:56   ` Zhao Liu
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] target: Mention 'cpu-qom.h' is target agnostic Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-20  7:14   ` Zhao Liu
2023-11-06  7:17     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] target/arm: Move internal declarations from 'cpu-qom.h' to 'cpu.h' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:27   ` Richard Henderson
2023-10-16  9:39     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] target/ppc: Remove CPU_RESOLVING_TYPE from 'cpu-qom.h' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] target/riscv: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] target: Declare FOO_CPU_TYPE_NAME/SUFFIX in 'cpu-qom.h' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] target/hexagon: Declare QOM definitions " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:28   ` Richard Henderson
2023-10-26 19:11   ` Brian Cain
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] target/loongarch: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:30   ` Richard Henderson
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] target/nios2: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:30   ` Richard Henderson
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] target/openrisc: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:31   ` Richard Henderson
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] target/riscv: Move TYPE_RISCV_CPU_BASE definition to 'cpu.h' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:32   ` Richard Henderson
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] target: Move ArchCPUClass " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:36   ` Richard Henderson
2023-10-20  8:03   ` Zhao Liu
2023-11-06 14:58     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] target/i386: Declare CPU QOM types using DEFINE_TYPES() macro Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-20  5:54   ` Zhao Liu
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] target/mips: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] target/ppc: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-13 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] target/sparc: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-20  5:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/16] target: Make 'cpu-qom.h' really target agnostic Zhao Liu
2023-10-20 11:30   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-20 16:08     ` Zhao Liu [this message]

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