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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
Cc: "Steven Sistare" <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Leonardo Bras" <leobras@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 05/14] migration: propagate suspended runstate
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2023 15:02:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZW4wTK0dld9pPCtX@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r0k1n4r7.fsf@suse.de>

On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 04:31:56PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
> Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 11:23:33AM -0500, Steven Sistare wrote:
> >> >> @@ -109,6 +117,7 @@ static int global_state_post_load(void *opaque, int version_id)
> >> >>          return -EINVAL;
> >> >>      }
> >> >>      s->state = r;
> >> >> +    vm_set_suspended(s->vm_was_suspended || r == RUN_STATE_SUSPENDED);
> >> > 
> >> > IIUC current vm_was_suspended (based on my read of your patch) was not the
> >> > same as a boolean representing "whether VM is suspended", but only a
> >> > temporary field to remember that for a VM stop request.  To be explicit, I
> >> > didn't see this flag set in qemu_system_suspend() in your previous patch.
> >> > 
> >> > If so, we can already do:
> >> > 
> >> >   vm_set_suspended(s->vm_was_suspended);
> >> > 
> >> > Irrelevant of RUN_STATE_SUSPENDED?
> >> 
> >> We need both terms of the expression.
> >> 
> >> If the vm *is* suspended (RUN_STATE_SUSPENDED), then vm_was_suspended = false.
> >> We call global_state_store prior to vm_stop_force_state, so the incoming
> >> side sees s->state = RUN_STATE_SUSPENDED and s->vm_was_suspended = false.
> >
> > Right.
> >
> >> However, the runstate is RUN_STATE_INMIGRATE.  When incoming finishes by
> >> calling vm_start, we need to restore the suspended state.  Thus in 
> >> global_state_post_load, we must set vm_was_suspended = true.
> >
> > With above, shouldn't global_state_get_runstate() (on dest) fetch SUSPENDED
> > already?  Then I think it should call vm_start(SUSPENDED) if to start.
> >
> > Maybe you're talking about the special case where autostart==false?  We
> > used to have this (existing process_incoming_migration_bh()):
> >
> >     if (!global_state_received() ||
> >         global_state_get_runstate() == RUN_STATE_RUNNING) {
> >         if (autostart) {
> >             vm_start();
> >         } else {
> >             runstate_set(RUN_STATE_PAUSED);
> >         }
> >     }
> >
> > If so maybe I get you, because in the "else" path we do seem to lose the
> > SUSPENDED state again, but in that case IMHO we should logically set
> > vm_was_suspended only when we "lose" it - we didn't lose it during
> > migration, but only until we decided to switch to PAUSED (due to
> > autostart==false). IOW, change above to something like:
> >
> >     state = global_state_get_runstate();
> >     if (!global_state_received() || runstate_is_alive(state)) {
> >         if (autostart) {
> >             vm_start(state);
> >         } else {
> >             if (runstate_is_suspended(state)) {
> >                 /* Remember suspended state before setting system to STOPed */
> >                 vm_was_suspended = true;
> >             }
> >             runstate_set(RUN_STATE_PAUSED);
> >         }
> >     }
> >
> > It may or may not have a functional difference even if current patch,
> > though.  However maybe clearer to follow vm_was_suspended's strict
> > definition.
> >
> >> 
> >> If the vm *was* suspended, but is currently stopped (eg RUN_STATE_PAUSED),
> >> then vm_was_suspended = true.  Migration from that state sets
> >> vm_was_suspended = s->vm_was_suspended = true in global_state_post_load and 
> >> ends with runstate_set(RUN_STATE_PAUSED).
> >> 
> >> I will add a comment here in the code.
> >>  
> >> >>      return 0;
> >> >>  }
> >> >> @@ -134,6 +143,7 @@ static const VMStateDescription vmstate_globalstate = {
> >> >>      .fields = (VMStateField[]) {
> >> >>          VMSTATE_UINT32(size, GlobalState),
> >> >>          VMSTATE_BUFFER(runstate, GlobalState),
> >> >> +        VMSTATE_BOOL(vm_was_suspended, GlobalState),
> >> >>          VMSTATE_END_OF_LIST()
> >> >>      },
> >> >>  };
> >> > 
> >> > I think this will break migration between old/new, unfortunately.  And
> >> > since the global state exist mostly for every VM, all VM setup should be
> >> > affected, and over all archs.
> >> 
> >> Thanks, I keep forgetting that my binary tricks are no good here.  However,
> >> I have one other trick up my sleeve, which is to store vm_was_running in
> >> global_state.runstate[strlen(runstate) + 2].  It is forwards and backwards
> >> compatible, since that byte is always 0 in older qemu.  It can be implemented
> >> with a few lines of code change confined to global_state.c, versus many lines 
> >> spread across files to do it the conventional way using a compat property and
> >> a subsection.  Sound OK?  
> >
> > Tricky!  But sounds okay to me.  I think you're inventing some of your own
> > way of being compatible, not relying on machine type as a benefit.  If go
> > this route please document clearly on the layout and also what it looked
> > like in old binaries.
> >
> > I think maybe it'll be good to keep using strings, so in the new binaries
> > we allow >1 strings, then we define properly on those strings (index 0:
> > runstate, existed since start; index 2: suspended, perhaps using "1"/"0" to
> > express, while 0x00 means old binary, etc.).
> >
> > I hope this trick will need less code than the subsection solution,
> > otherwise I'd still consider going with that, which is the "common
> > solution".
> >
> > Let's also see whether Juan/Fabiano/others has any opinions.
> 
> Can't we pack the structure and just go ahead and slash 'runstate' in
> half? That would claim some unused bytes for future backward
> compatibility issues.

What I meant is something like:

  runstate[100] = {"str1", 0x00, "str2", 0x00, ...}

Where str1 is runstate, and str2 can be either "0"/"1" to reflect suspended
value.  We define all the strings separated by 0x00, then IIUC we save the
most chars for potential future extension of this string.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-04 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-30 21:37 [PATCH V6 00/14] fix migration of suspended runstate Steve Sistare
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 01/14] cpus: pass runstate to vm_prepare_start Steve Sistare
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 02/14] cpus: vm_was_suspended Steve Sistare
2023-11-30 22:03   ` Peter Xu
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 03/14] cpus: stop vm in suspended runstate Steve Sistare
2023-11-30 22:10   ` Peter Xu
2023-12-01 17:11     ` Steven Sistare
2023-12-04 16:35       ` Peter Xu
2023-12-04 16:41         ` Steven Sistare
2023-12-22 12:20   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-12-22 15:53     ` Steven Sistare
2023-12-23  5:41       ` Markus Armbruster
2024-01-03 13:09         ` Peter Xu
2024-01-03 13:32           ` Steven Sistare
2024-01-03 14:47         ` Steven Sistare
2024-01-08  7:43           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 04/14] cpus: vm_resume Steve Sistare
2023-12-05 21:36   ` Peter Xu
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 05/14] migration: propagate suspended runstate Steve Sistare
2023-11-30 23:06   ` Peter Xu
2023-12-01 16:23     ` Steven Sistare
2023-12-04 17:24       ` Peter Xu
2023-12-04 19:31         ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-12-04 20:02           ` Peter Xu [this message]
2023-12-04 21:09             ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-12-04 22:04               ` Peter Xu
2023-12-05 12:44                 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-12-05 14:14                   ` Steven Sistare
2023-12-05 16:18                   ` Peter Xu
2023-12-05 16:52                     ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-12-05 17:04                       ` Steven Sistare
2023-12-04 22:23         ` Steven Sistare
2023-12-05 16:50           ` Peter Xu
2023-12-05 17:48             ` Steven Sistare
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 06/14] migration: preserve " Steve Sistare
2023-12-05 21:34   ` Peter Xu
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 07/14] migration: preserve suspended for snapshot Steve Sistare
2023-12-05 21:35   ` Peter Xu
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 08/14] migration: preserve suspended for bg_migration Steve Sistare
2023-12-05 21:35   ` Peter Xu
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 09/14] tests/qtest: migration events Steve Sistare
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 10/14] tests/qtest: option to suspend during migration Steve Sistare
2023-12-04 21:14   ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 11/14] tests/qtest: precopy migration with suspend Steve Sistare
2023-12-04 20:49   ` Peter Xu
2023-12-05 16:14     ` Steven Sistare
2023-12-05 21:07       ` Peter Xu
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 12/14] tests/qtest: postcopy " Steve Sistare
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 13/14] tests/qtest: bootfile per vm Steve Sistare
2023-12-04 21:13   ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-12-04 22:37     ` Peter Xu
2023-12-05 18:43       ` Steven Sistare
2023-11-30 21:37 ` [PATCH V6 14/14] tests/qtest: background migration with suspend Steve Sistare
2023-12-04 21:14   ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-12-05 18:52 ` [PATCH V6 00/14] fix migration of suspended runstate Steven Sistare
2023-12-05 19:19   ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-12-05 21:37   ` Peter Xu

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