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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Cc: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PULL 8/9] meson: Disallow 64-bit on 32-bit emulation
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 16:08:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z_kwcYoQOoTWv9Ev@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cfc8254d-6b15-4d9b-af28-7129b76363e4@linaro.org>

On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 05:05:20PM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 11/4/25 15:42, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 12:57:23PM -0800, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > > For system mode, we can rarely support the amount of RAM that
> > > the guest requires. TCG emulation is restricted to round-robin
> > > mode, which solves many of the atomicity issues, but not those
> > > associated with virtio.  In any case, round-robin does nothing
> > > to help the speed of emulation.
> > > 
> > > For user mode, most emulation does not succeed at all.  Most
> > > of the time we cannot even load 64-bit non-PIE binaries due
> > > to lack of a 64-bit address space.  Threads are run in
> > > parallel, not round-robin, which means that atomicity
> > > is not handled.
> > > 
> > > Reviewed-by: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
> > > Reviewed-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
> > > ---
> > >   meson.build | 13 ++++++++++---
> > >   1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > 
> > Shouldn't  this patch and the earlier ones in this series have
> > added something to removed-features.rst, as this is a significant
> > feature removal which is impacting downstream users, and distros
> > in particular.
> 
> IIRC the rationale for not deprecating was the feature is largely
> broken already. Skipping the deprecation process we indeed forgot
> to document in removed-features.rst.
> 
> Do you expect the doc update for the 10.0 release?

The issue is that

  https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/10.0

delegates to removed-features.rst, so if we don't have time to
update the rst file, then we at least need to edit ChangeLog/10.0
to mention this removal of binaries as a fallback


With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-11 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-08 20:57 [PULL 0/9] meson: Disallow 64-bit on 32-bit emulation Richard Henderson
2025-02-08 20:57 ` [PULL 1/9] meson: Drop tcg as a module Richard Henderson
2025-02-08 20:57 ` [PULL 2/9] meson: Disallow 64-bit on 32-bit KVM emulation Richard Henderson
2025-02-08 20:57 ` [PULL 3/9] meson: Disallow 64-bit on 32-bit Xen emulation Richard Henderson
2025-02-18 11:20   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-18 13:19     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-18 13:20       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-18 14:10     ` Andrew Cooper
2025-02-18 15:25       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-18 15:41         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-18 19:30       ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-02-08 20:57 ` [PULL 4/9] meson: Disallow 64-bit on 32-bit HVF/NVMM/WHPX emulation Richard Henderson
2025-02-08 20:57 ` [PULL 5/9] gitlab-ci: Replace aarch64 with arm in cross-i686-tci build Richard Henderson
2025-02-08 20:57 ` [PULL 6/9] configure: Define TARGET_LONG_BITS in configs/targets/*.mak Richard Henderson
2025-02-08 20:57 ` [PULL 7/9] target/*: Remove TARGET_LONG_BITS from cpu-param.h Richard Henderson
2025-02-08 20:57 ` [PULL 8/9] meson: Disallow 64-bit on 32-bit emulation Richard Henderson
2025-04-11 13:42   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-11 15:05     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-04-11 15:08       ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-04-11 18:18         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-02-08 20:57 ` [PULL 9/9] meson: Deprecate 32-bit host support Richard Henderson
2025-02-10 18:21 ` [PULL 0/9] meson: Disallow 64-bit on 32-bit emulation Stefan Hajnoczi

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