From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 04/30] io: fsync before closing a file channel
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 17:31:41 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZaT7fTF7sonZZtG4@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZaT02OxpzC973cNm@redhat.com>
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 09:03:20AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 04:57:42PM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 03:46:02PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
> > > > (2) Why metadata doesn't matter (v.s. fsync(), when CONFIG_FDATASYNC=y)?
> > >
> > > Syncing the inode information is not critical, it's mostly timestamp
> > > information (man inode). And fdatasync makes sure to sync any metadata
> > > that would be relevant for the retrieval of the data.
> >
> > I forgot to reply to this one in the previous reply..
> >
> > Timestamps look all fine to be old. What about file size? That's also in
> > "man inode" as metadata, but I'm not sure whether data will be fully valid
> > if e.g. size enlarged but not flushed along with the page caches.
>
> If the size wasn't updated, then syncing of the data would be pointless.
> The man page confirms that size is synced:
>
> [quote]
> fdatasync() is similar to fsync(), but does not flush modified metadata
> unless that metadata is needed in order to allow a subsequent data re‐
> trieval to be correctly handled. For example, changes to st_atime or
> st_mtime (respectively, time of last access and time of last modifica‐
> tion; see inode(7)) do not require flushing because they are not neces‐
> sary for a subsequent data read to be handled correctly. On the other
> hand, a change to the file size (st_size, as made by say ftruncate(2)),
> would require a metadata flush.
> [/quote]
I should have read more carefully, sorry for the noise.
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-15 9:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-27 20:25 [RFC PATCH v3 00/30] migration: File based migration with multifd and fixed-ram Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/30] io: add and implement QIO_CHANNEL_FEATURE_SEEKABLE for channel file Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-10 8:49 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/30] io: Add generic pwritev/preadv interface Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-10 9:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-01-11 6:59 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/30] io: implement io_pwritev/preadv for QIOChannelFile Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-10 9:08 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-01-11 7:04 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/30] io: fsync before closing a file channel Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-10 9:04 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-01-11 8:44 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-11 18:46 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-12 0:01 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-12 10:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-01-15 3:38 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-15 8:57 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-15 9:03 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-01-15 9:31 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/30] migration/qemu-file: add utility methods for working with seekable channels Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-11 9:57 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-11 18:49 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/30] migration/ram: Introduce 'fixed-ram' migration capability Fabiano Rosas
2023-12-22 10:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-01-11 10:43 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/30] migration: Add fixed-ram URI compatibility check Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-15 9:01 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-23 19:07 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-23 19:07 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/30] migration/ram: Add outgoing 'fixed-ram' migration Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-15 9:28 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-15 14:50 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/30] migration/ram: Add incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-15 9:49 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-15 16:43 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/30] tests/qtest: migration-test: Add tests for fixed-ram file-based migration Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-15 10:01 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/30] migration/multifd: Allow multifd without packets Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-15 11:51 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-15 18:39 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-15 23:01 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/30] migration/multifd: Allow QIOTask error reporting without an object Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-15 12:06 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/30] migration/multifd: Add outgoing QIOChannelFile support Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-16 4:05 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-16 7:25 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-16 13:37 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-17 8:28 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-17 17:34 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-18 7:11 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/30] migration/multifd: Add incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-16 6:29 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/30] io: Add a pwritev/preadv version that takes a discontiguous iovec Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-16 6:58 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-16 18:15 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-17 9:48 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-17 18:06 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-18 7:44 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-18 12:47 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-19 0:22 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-17 12:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-01-17 14:27 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-01-17 18:09 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/30] multifd: Rename MultiFDSendParams::data to compress_data Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-16 7:03 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/30] migration/multifd: Decouple recv method from pages Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-16 7:23 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/30] migration/multifd: Allow receiving pages without packets Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-16 8:10 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-16 20:25 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-19 0:20 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-19 12:57 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/30] migration/ram: Ignore multifd flush when doing fixed-ram migration Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-16 8:23 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-17 18:13 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-19 1:33 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 20/30] migration/multifd: Support outgoing fixed-ram stream format Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 21/30] migration/multifd: Support incoming " Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 22/30] tests/qtest: Add a multifd + fixed-ram migration test Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 23/30] migration: Add direct-io parameter Fabiano Rosas
2023-12-22 10:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 24/30] tests/qtest: Add a test for migration with direct-io and multifd Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 25/30] monitor: Honor QMP request for fd removal immediately Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 26/30] monitor: Extract fdset fd flags comparison into a function Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 27/30] monitor: fdset: Match against O_DIRECT Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 28/30] docs/devel/migration.rst: Document the file transport Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 29/30] migration: Add support for fdset with multifd + file Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-27 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH v3 30/30] tests/qtest: Add a test for fixed-ram with passing of fds Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-11 10:50 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/30] migration: File based migration with multifd and fixed-ram Peter Xu
2024-01-11 18:38 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-15 6:22 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-15 8:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-01-15 8:41 ` Peter Xu
2024-01-15 19:45 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-15 23:20 ` Peter Xu
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