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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Henrique Barboza" <danielhb413@gmail.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>,
	"Harsh Prateek Bora" <harshpb@linux.ibm.com>,
	qemu-ppc <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: spapr watchdog vs watchdog_perform_action() / QMP watchdog-set-action
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 14:58:01 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZbciScVElxltEawe@zatzit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-kTwM2U3VE0rX-hZt-5AAVPz7Vc-WEwwqndz+Liie=3Q@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 01:08:02PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 20:49, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
> >
> > > Hi; one of the "bitesized tasks" we have listed is to convert
> > > watchdog timers which directly call qemu_system_reset_request() on
> > > watchdog timeout to call watchdog_perform_action() instead. This
> > > means they honour the QMP commands that let the user specifiy
> > > the behaviour on watchdog expiry:
> > > https://www.qemu.org/docs/master/interop/qemu-qmp-ref.html#qapidoc-141
> > > https://www.qemu.org/docs/master/interop/qemu-qmp-ref.html#qapidoc-129
> > > (choices include reset, power off the system, do nothing, etc).
> > >
> > > There are only a few remaining watchdogs that don't use the
> > > watchdog_perform_action() function. In most cases the change
> > > is obvious and easy: just make them do that instead of calling
> > > qemu_system_reset_request(SHUTDOWN_CAUSE_GUEST_RESET).
> > >
> > > However, the hw/watchdog/spapr_watchdog.c case is trickier. As
> > > far as I can tell from the sources, this is a watchdog set up via
> > > a hypercall, and the guest makes a choice of "power off, restart,
> > > or dump and restart" for its on-expiry action.
> > >
> > > What should this watchdog's interaction with the watchdog-set-action
> > > QMP command be? If the user says "do X" and the guest says "do Y",
> > > which do we do? (With the current code, we always honour what
> > > the guest asks for and ignore what the user asks for.)
> >
> > Gut reaction: when the user says "do X", the guest should not get a say.
> > But one of the values of X could be "whatever the guest says".

That would also be my inclination.

> Mmm. Slightly awkwardly, we don't currently distinguish between
> "action is reset because the user never expressed a preference"
> and "action is reset because the user specifically asked for that",
> but I guess in theory we could make that distinction. (Conveniently
> there is no QMP action for "query current watchdog-action state",
> so we don't need to worry about reflecting that distinction in the
> QMP interface if we make it.)

I think that change is necessary in order to accomodate this sort of
watchdog with guest-progammable behaviour (which is part of the PAPR
spec, so we shouldn't just ignore it).

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-29  4:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-26 15:23 spapr watchdog vs watchdog_perform_action() / QMP watchdog-set-action Peter Maydell
2024-01-26 20:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-01-27 13:08   ` Peter Maydell
2024-01-29  3:58     ` David Gibson [this message]
2024-02-22 14:47       ` Peter Maydell

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