* Regarding to the recent Intel IAA/DSA/QAT support on migration
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@ 2024-02-07 8:10 ` Peter Xu
2024-02-07 8:38 ` Liu, Yuan1
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From: Peter Xu @ 2024-02-07 8:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bryan Zhang, Hao Xiang, Yuan Liu; +Cc: Fabiano Rosas, QEMU Devel Mailing List
Copy qemu-devel.
On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 04:07:40PM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm sending this email just to leave a generic comment to the recent
> migration efforts to enable these new Intel technologies.
>
> The relevant patchsets (latest version so far) we're discussing are:
>
> [PATCH v3 0/4] Live Migration Acceleration with IAA Compression
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240103112851.908082-1-yuan1.liu@intel.com
>
> [PATCH v3 00/20] Use Intel DSA accelerator to offload zero page checking in multifd live migration.
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240104004452.324068-1-hao.xiang@bytedance.com
>
> [PATCH 0/5] *** Implement using Intel QAT to offload ZLIB
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20231231205804.2366509-1-bryan.zhang@bytedance.com
>
> I want to comment in a generic way since this should apply to all these
> series:
>
> - A heads-up that multifd code is rapidly changing recently, I apologize
> that you'll need a rebase. It's just that it's probably much better to
> do this before anything lands there.
>
> IIUC the good thing is we found that send_prepare() doesn't need to be
> changed that much, however there's still some change; please refer to
> the new code (I'll prepare a pull tomorrow to include most of the
> changes, and we should have a major thread race fixed too with Fabiano
> & Avihai's help). I hope this will also provide some kind of isolation
> to e.g. other works that may touch other areas. E.g., I hope fixed-ram
> won't need to conflict much with any of the above series now.
>
> - When posting the new patchset (if there is a plan..), please make sure
> we have:
>
> - Proper unit tests for the new code (probably mostly software
> fallbacks to be tested on the new libraries being introduced; just to
> make sure the new library code paths can get some torture please).
>
> - Proper documentation for the new code. Please feel free to start
> creating your own .rst file under docs/devel/migration/, we can try
> to merge them later. It should help avoid conflictions. Please also
> link the new file into index.rst there.
>
> IMHO the document can contain many things, the important ones could
> start from: who should enable such feature; what one can get from
> having it enabled; what is the HW requirement to enable it; how
> should one tune the new parameters, and so on... some links to the
> technology behinds it would be nice too to be referenced.
>
> - Try to add new code (especially HW/library based) into new file.
> I see that QPL & QAT already proposed its own files (multifd-pql.c,
> multifd-qatzip.c) which is great.
>
> Xiang, please also consider doing so for the DSA based zero page
> detection. It can be called multifd-zero-page.c, for example, and
> you can create it when working on the
> offload-zero-page-detect-to-multifd patchset already.
>
> - Please provide someone who can potentially maintain this code if ever
> possible. Pushing these code upstream is great, but maintaining will
> also take effort. It might be impractical this keeps growing for
> migration maintainers (currently Fabiano and myself), so we may like
> to have people covering these areas, especially when the new codes
> are not directly relevant to migration framework.
>
> I'd suggest for each of the project we can add an entry in
> MAINTAINERS below "Migration" section, adding relevant files (and
> these files should exist in both the new section and "Migration"). I
> am not sure whether Bytedance would be able to cover this, or we
> should try to find someone from Intel? If you're willing to add
> yourself to maintain such codes, please attach the maintainers file
> change together with the series. It will be very much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Peter Xu
--
Peter Xu
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* RE: Regarding to the recent Intel IAA/DSA/QAT support on migration
2024-02-07 8:10 ` Regarding to the recent Intel IAA/DSA/QAT support on migration Peter Xu
@ 2024-02-07 8:38 ` Liu, Yuan1
2024-02-08 1:02 ` [External] " Hao Xiang
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Liu, Yuan1 @ 2024-02-07 8:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Xu, Bryan Zhang, Hao Xiang; +Cc: Fabiano Rosas, QEMU Devel Mailing List
Thank you very much for your reminder and the rapid updates to the
multifd function. I will incorporate your suggestions into the next
version (IAA Accelerated Live Migration solution).
Regarding the QAT and DSA optimization, my colleagues and I have
already started reviewing and testing them, and it seems like a
promising optimization direction. I am more than willing to contribute
further efforts to the long-term maintenance of Intel accelerators in
live migration.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 4:10 PM
> To: Bryan Zhang <bryan.zhang@bytedance.com>; Hao Xiang
> <hao.xiang@bytedance.com>; Liu, Yuan1 <yuan1.liu@intel.com>
> Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>; QEMU Devel Mailing List <qemu-
> devel@nongnu.org>
> Subject: Regarding to the recent Intel IAA/DSA/QAT support on migration
>
> Copy qemu-devel.
>
> On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 04:07:40PM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm sending this email just to leave a generic comment to the recent
> > migration efforts to enable these new Intel technologies.
> >
> > The relevant patchsets (latest version so far) we're discussing are:
> >
> > [PATCH v3 0/4] Live Migration Acceleration with IAA Compression
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240103112851.908082-1-yuan1.liu@intel.com
> >
> > [PATCH v3 00/20] Use Intel DSA accelerator to offload zero page
> checking in multifd live migration.
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240104004452.324068-1-hao.xiang@bytedance.
> > com
> >
> > [PATCH 0/5] *** Implement using Intel QAT to offload ZLIB
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20231231205804.2366509-1-bryan.zhang@bytedan
> > ce.com
> >
> > I want to comment in a generic way since this should apply to all
> > these
> > series:
> >
> > - A heads-up that multifd code is rapidly changing recently, I
> apologize
> > that you'll need a rebase. It's just that it's probably much better
> to
> > do this before anything lands there.
> >
> > IIUC the good thing is we found that send_prepare() doesn't need to
> be
> > changed that much, however there's still some change; please refer
> to
> > the new code (I'll prepare a pull tomorrow to include most of the
> > changes, and we should have a major thread race fixed too with
> Fabiano
> > & Avihai's help). I hope this will also provide some kind of
> isolation
> > to e.g. other works that may touch other areas. E.g., I hope fixed-
> ram
> > won't need to conflict much with any of the above series now.
> >
> > - When posting the new patchset (if there is a plan..), please make
> sure
> > we have:
> >
> > - Proper unit tests for the new code (probably mostly software
> > fallbacks to be tested on the new libraries being introduced; just
> to
> > make sure the new library code paths can get some torture please).
> >
> > - Proper documentation for the new code. Please feel free to start
> > creating your own .rst file under docs/devel/migration/, we can
> try
> > to merge them later. It should help avoid conflictions. Please
> also
> > link the new file into index.rst there.
> >
> > IMHO the document can contain many things, the important ones
> could
> > start from: who should enable such feature; what one can get from
> > having it enabled; what is the HW requirement to enable it; how
> > should one tune the new parameters, and so on... some links to the
> > technology behinds it would be nice too to be referenced.
> >
> > - Try to add new code (especially HW/library based) into new file.
> > I see that QPL & QAT already proposed its own files (multifd-
> pql.c,
> > multifd-qatzip.c) which is great.
> >
> > Xiang, please also consider doing so for the DSA based zero page
> > detection. It can be called multifd-zero-page.c, for example, and
> > you can create it when working on the
> > offload-zero-page-detect-to-multifd patchset already.
> >
> > - Please provide someone who can potentially maintain this code if
> ever
> > possible. Pushing these code upstream is great, but maintaining
> will
> > also take effort. It might be impractical this keeps growing for
> > migration maintainers (currently Fabiano and myself), so we may
> like
> > to have people covering these areas, especially when the new codes
> > are not directly relevant to migration framework.
> >
> > I'd suggest for each of the project we can add an entry in
> > MAINTAINERS below "Migration" section, adding relevant files (and
> > these files should exist in both the new section and "Migration").
> I
> > am not sure whether Bytedance would be able to cover this, or we
> > should try to find someone from Intel? If you're willing to add
> > yourself to maintain such codes, please attach the maintainers
> file
> > change together with the series. It will be very much
> appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Peter Xu
>
> --
> Peter Xu
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* Re: [External] RE: Regarding to the recent Intel IAA/DSA/QAT support on migration
2024-02-07 8:38 ` Liu, Yuan1
@ 2024-02-08 1:02 ` Hao Xiang
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Hao Xiang @ 2024-02-08 1:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Liu, Yuan1; +Cc: Peter Xu, Bryan Zhang, Fabiano Rosas, QEMU Devel Mailing List
On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 12:38 AM Liu, Yuan1 <yuan1.liu@intel.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for your reminder and the rapid updates to the
> multifd function. I will incorporate your suggestions into the next
> version (IAA Accelerated Live Migration solution).
>
> Regarding the QAT and DSA optimization, my colleagues and I have
> already started reviewing and testing them, and it seems like a
> promising optimization direction. I am more than willing to contribute
> further efforts to the long-term maintenance of Intel accelerators in
> live migration.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 4:10 PM
> > To: Bryan Zhang <bryan.zhang@bytedance.com>; Hao Xiang
> > <hao.xiang@bytedance.com>; Liu, Yuan1 <yuan1.liu@intel.com>
> > Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>; QEMU Devel Mailing List <qemu-
> > devel@nongnu.org>
> > Subject: Regarding to the recent Intel IAA/DSA/QAT support on migration
> >
> > Copy qemu-devel.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 04:07:40PM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm sending this email just to leave a generic comment to the recent
> > > migration efforts to enable these new Intel technologies.
> > >
> > > The relevant patchsets (latest version so far) we're discussing are:
> > >
> > > [PATCH v3 0/4] Live Migration Acceleration with IAA Compression
> > >
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240103112851.908082-1-yuan1.liu@intel.com
> > >
> > > [PATCH v3 00/20] Use Intel DSA accelerator to offload zero page
> > checking in multifd live migration.
> > >
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240104004452.324068-1-hao.xiang@bytedance.
> > > com
> > >
> > > [PATCH 0/5] *** Implement using Intel QAT to offload ZLIB
> > >
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20231231205804.2366509-1-bryan.zhang@bytedan
> > > ce.com
> > >
> > > I want to comment in a generic way since this should apply to all
> > > these
> > > series:
> > >
> > > - A heads-up that multifd code is rapidly changing recently, I
> > apologize
> > > that you'll need a rebase. It's just that it's probably much better
> > to
> > > do this before anything lands there.
> > >
> > > IIUC the good thing is we found that send_prepare() doesn't need to
> > be
> > > changed that much, however there's still some change; please refer
> > to
> > > the new code (I'll prepare a pull tomorrow to include most of the
> > > changes, and we should have a major thread race fixed too with
> > Fabiano
> > > & Avihai's help). I hope this will also provide some kind of
> > isolation
> > > to e.g. other works that may touch other areas. E.g., I hope fixed-
> > ram
> > > won't need to conflict much with any of the above series now.
Thanks for the update. The rebase shouldn't be that bad so no worries.
> > >
> > > - When posting the new patchset (if there is a plan..), please make
> > sure
> > > we have:
> > >
> > > - Proper unit tests for the new code (probably mostly software
> > > fallbacks to be tested on the new libraries being introduced; just
> > to
> > > make sure the new library code paths can get some torture please).
> > >
> > > - Proper documentation for the new code. Please feel free to start
> > > creating your own .rst file under docs/devel/migration/, we can
> > try
> > > to merge them later. It should help avoid conflictions. Please
> > also
> > > link the new file into index.rst there.
> > >
> > > IMHO the document can contain many things, the important ones
> > could
> > > start from: who should enable such feature; what one can get from
> > > having it enabled; what is the HW requirement to enable it; how
> > > should one tune the new parameters, and so on... some links to the
> > > technology behinds it would be nice too to be referenced.
> > >
> > > - Try to add new code (especially HW/library based) into new file.
> > > I see that QPL & QAT already proposed its own files (multifd-
> > pql.c,
> > > multifd-qatzip.c) which is great.
> > >
> > > Xiang, please also consider doing so for the DSA based zero page
> > > detection. It can be called multifd-zero-page.c, for example, and
> > > you can create it when working on the
> > > offload-zero-page-detect-to-multifd patchset already.
Sounds good.
> > >
> > > - Please provide someone who can potentially maintain this code if
> > ever
> > > possible. Pushing these code upstream is great, but maintaining
> > will
> > > also take effort. It might be impractical this keeps growing for
> > > migration maintainers (currently Fabiano and myself), so we may
> > like
> > > to have people covering these areas, especially when the new codes
> > > are not directly relevant to migration framework.
> > >
> > > I'd suggest for each of the project we can add an entry in
> > > MAINTAINERS below "Migration" section, adding relevant files (and
> > > these files should exist in both the new section and "Migration").
> > I
> > > am not sure whether Bytedance would be able to cover this, or we
> > > should try to find someone from Intel? If you're willing to add
> > > yourself to maintain such codes, please attach the maintainers
> > file
> > > change together with the series. It will be very much
> > appreciated.
I will add myself to maintain this. In addition, I will talk to Intel
about adding someone from Intel (hopefully Yuan or someone from his
team?) as well to maintain the DSA work.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Xu
> >
> > --
> > Peter Xu
>
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