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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	James Gowans <jgowans@amazon.com>,
	 "akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	Derek Manwaring <derekmn@amazon.com>,
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	 "linux-coco@lists.linux.dev" <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: Unmapping KVM Guest Memory from Host Kernel
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 14:47:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZeuVV3Jo31lcL41H@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa50a5ea6dbcd5f3f1df39dcf2fc4f5ee881ec8e.camel@infradead.org>

On Fri, Mar 08, 2024, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2024-03-08 at 09:35 -0800, David Matlack wrote:
> > I think what James is looking for (and what we are also interested
> > in), is _eliminating_ the ability to access guest memory from the
> > direct map entirely. And in general, eliminate the ability to access
> > guest memory in as many ways as possible.
> 
> Well, pKVM does that... 

Out-of-tree :-)

I'm not just being snarky; when pKVM lands this functionality upstream, I fully
expect zapping direct map entries to be generic guest_memfd functionality that
would be opt-in, either by the in-kernel technology, e.g. pKVM, or by userspace,
or by some combination of the two, e.g. I can see making it optional to nuke the
direct map when using guest_memfd for TDX guests so that rogue accesses from the
host generate synchronous #PFs instead of latent #MCs.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-08 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <AQHacXBJeX10YUH0O0SiQBg1zQLaEw==>
2024-03-08 15:50 ` Unmapping KVM Guest Memory from Host Kernel Gowans, James
2024-03-08 16:25   ` Brendan Jackman
2024-03-08 17:35     ` David Matlack
2024-03-08 17:45       ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-08 22:47         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-03-09  2:45       ` Manwaring, Derek
2024-03-18 14:11         ` Brendan Jackman
2024-03-08 23:22   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-09 11:14     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-05-13 10:31       ` Patrick Roy
2024-05-13 15:39         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-13 16:01           ` Gowans, James
2024-05-13 17:09             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-13 19:43               ` Gowans, James
2024-05-13 20:36                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-13 22:01                   ` Manwaring, Derek
2024-03-14 21:45     ` Manwaring, Derek
2024-03-09  5:01   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-08 21:05 Manwaring, Derek
2024-03-11  9:26 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-03-11  9:29   ` Fuad Tabba

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