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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Harsh Prateek Bora" <harshpb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Yanan Wang" <wangyanan55@huawei.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clegoate@redhat.com>,
	"Halil Pasic" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Laurent Vivier" <laurent@vivier.eu>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	"Daniel Henrique Barboza" <danielhb413@gmail.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
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	"Ilya Leoshkevich" <iii@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Eric Farman" <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/14] docs: document special exception for machine type deprecation & removal
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 10:53:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZjNimqXiOr5nTJWg@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f301d1a-06ec-4c78-9924-a4379f56d0fc@redhat.com>

On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 11:47:40AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 01/05/2024 20.27, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > This extends the deprecation policy to indicate that versioned machine
> > types will be marked deprecated after 3 years, and then subject to
> > removal after a further 3 years has passed.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >   docs/about/deprecated.rst | 12 ++++++++++++
> >   1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/docs/about/deprecated.rst b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> > index 7b8aafa15b..55120e774c 100644
> > --- a/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> > +++ b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
> > @@ -11,6 +11,18 @@ releases, the feature is liable to be removed. Deprecated features may also
> >   generate warnings on the console when QEMU starts up, or if activated via a
> >   monitor command, however, this is not a mandatory requirement.
> > +As a special exception to this general timeframe, rather than have an
> > +indefinite lifetime, versioned machine types are only intended to be
> > +supported for a period of 6 years, equivalent to 18 QEMU releases. All
> > +versioned machine types will be automatically marked deprecated after an
> > +initial 3 years (9 QEMU releases) has passed, and will then be deleted after
> 
> Should there be the word "period" after "3 years" ? Otherwise it sounds a
> little bit weird to me - but I'm also not a native speaker, so I might be
> wrong.

It would be valid to say either  "3 year period" or "3 years", but
not "3 years period".
 
> > +a further 3 year period has passed. It is recommended that a deprecated
> > +machine type is only used for incoming migrations and restore of saved state,
> > +for pre-existing VM deployments.
> 
> Should we maybe add a sentence that they should ideally be updated to a
> newer machine type during a service window with downtime? (well, it might be
> also obvious, so maybe not worth to mention it)

Sure, I'm fine adding something about that, as it helps to steer people
in the sane direction.

> >  Newly deployed VMs should exclusively use a
> > +non-deprecated machine type, with use of the most recent version highly
> > +recommended. Non-versioned machine types follow the general feature
> > +deprecation policy.
> 
> Anyway:
> Reviewed-by: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
> 

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-02  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-01 18:27 [PATCH 00/14] hw: define and enforce a standard lifecycle for versioned machines Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 01/14] include/hw: add helpers for defining versioned machine types Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 10:34   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-09 14:39     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 14:57   ` Eric Blake
2024-05-02 16:54     ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-09 14:39     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 02/14] hw/arm: convert 'virt' machine definitions to use new macros Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 12:11   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 03/14] hw/s390x: convert 'ccw' " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 11:12   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 04/14] hw/ppc: convert 'spapr' " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 11:57   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 05/14] hw/m68k: convert 'virt' " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 12:00   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 06/14] hw/i386: convert 'i440fx' " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 07/14] hw/i386: convert 'q35' " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 08/14] include/hw: add macros for deprecation & removal of versioned machines Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 10:59   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-09 14:42     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 09/14] hw: temporarily disable deletion of versioned machine types Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 11:05   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-02 11:13     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 10/14] hw: set deprecation info for all " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 11:06   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 11/14] hw: skip registration of outdated " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 12:02   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 12/14] hw/ppc: remove obsolete manual deprecation reason string of spapr machines Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 12:04   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 13/14] hw/i386: remove obsolete manual deprecation reason string of i440fx machines Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 12:08   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-02 12:15     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 14/14] docs: document special exception for machine type deprecation & removal Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02  9:47   ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-02  9:53     ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-05-03 11:46 ` [PATCH 00/14] hw: define and enforce a standard lifecycle for versioned machines Cédric Le Goater
2024-05-03 12:14 ` Peter Maydell
2024-05-03 12:34   ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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