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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Yanan Wang" <wangyanan55@huawei.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	"Sia Jee Heng" <jeeheng.sia@starfivetech.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	qemu-riscv@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	"Zhenyu Wang" <zhenyu.z.wang@intel.com>,
	"Dapeng Mi" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>,
	"Yongwei Ma" <yongwei.ma@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 3/7] hw/core: Add cache topology options in -smp
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 10:32:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zl7fHop_GaiJt6AE@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sext9jfo.fsf@pond.sub.org>

On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 10:54:51AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> writes:
> 
> > Add "l1d-cache", "l1i-cache". "l2-cache", and "l3-cache" options in
> > -smp to define the cache topology for SMP system.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
> 
> [...]
> 
> > diff --git a/qapi/machine.json b/qapi/machine.json
> > index 7ac5a05bb9c9..8fa5af69b1bf 100644
> > --- a/qapi/machine.json
> > +++ b/qapi/machine.json
> > @@ -1746,6 +1746,23 @@
> >  #
> >  # @threads: number of threads per core
> >  #
> > +# @l1d-cache: topology hierarchy of L1 data cache. It accepts the CPU
> > +#     topology enumeration as the parameter, i.e., CPUs in the same
> > +#     topology container share the same L1 data cache. (since 9.1)
> > +#
> > +# @l1i-cache: topology hierarchy of L1 instruction cache. It accepts
> > +#     the CPU topology enumeration as the parameter, i.e., CPUs in the
> > +#     same topology container share the same L1 instruction cache.
> > +#     (since 9.1)
> > +#
> > +# @l2-cache: topology hierarchy of L2 unified cache. It accepts the CPU
> > +#     topology enumeration as the parameter, i.e., CPUs in the same
> > +#     topology container share the same L2 unified cache. (since 9.1)
> > +#
> > +# @l3-cache: topology hierarchy of L3 unified cache. It accepts the CPU
> > +#     topology enumeration as the parameter, i.e., CPUs in the same
> > +#     topology container share the same L3 unified cache. (since 9.1)
> > +#
> >  # Since: 6.1
> >  ##
> 
> The new members are all optional.  What does "absent" mean?  No such
> cache?  Some default topology?
> 
> Is this sufficiently general?  Do all machines of interest have a split
> level 1 cache, a level 2 cache, and a level 3 cache?

Level 4 cache is apparently a thing

https://www.guru3d.com/story/intel-confirms-l4-cache-in-upcoming-meteor-lake-cpus/

but given that any new cache levels will require new code in QEMU to
wire up, its not a big deal to add new properties at the same time.

That said see my reply just now to the cover letter, where I suggest
we should have a "caches" property that takes an array of cache
info objects.

> 
> Is the CPU topology level the only cache property we'll want to
> configure here?  If the answer isn't "yes", then we should perhaps wrap
> it in an object, so we can easily add more members later.

Cache size is a piece of info I could see us wanting to express

> Two spaces between sentences for consistency, please.
> 
> >  { 'struct': 'SMPConfiguration', 'data': {
> > @@ -1758,7 +1775,11 @@
> >       '*modules': 'int',
> >       '*cores': 'int',
> >       '*threads': 'int',
> > -     '*maxcpus': 'int' } }
> > +     '*maxcpus': 'int',
> > +     '*l1d-cache': 'CPUTopoLevel',
> > +     '*l1i-cache': 'CPUTopoLevel',
> > +     '*l2-cache': 'CPUTopoLevel',
> > +     '*l3-cache': 'CPUTopoLevel' } }
> >  
> >  ##
> >  # @x-query-irq:
> > diff --git a/system/vl.c b/system/vl.c
> 
> [...]
> 

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-04  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-30 10:15 [RFC v2 0/7] Introduce SMP Cache Topology Zhao Liu
2024-05-30 10:15 ` [RFC v2 1/7] hw/core: Make CPU topology enumeration arch-agnostic Zhao Liu
2024-06-03 12:19   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-06-04  8:39     ` Zhao Liu
2024-06-04  8:44       ` Markus Armbruster
2024-06-03 12:25   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-06-04  8:33     ` Zhao Liu
2024-06-04  8:47       ` Markus Armbruster
2024-06-04  9:06         ` Zhao Liu
2024-05-30 10:15 ` [RFC v2 2/7] hw/core: Define cache topology for machine Zhao Liu
2024-05-30 10:15 ` [RFC v2 3/7] hw/core: Add cache topology options in -smp Zhao Liu
2024-06-04  8:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-06-04  9:32     ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-06-04 16:08       ` Zhao Liu
2024-05-30 10:15 ` [RFC v2 4/7] i386/cpu: Support thread and module level cache topology Zhao Liu
2024-05-30 10:15 ` [RFC v2 5/7] i386/cpu: Update cache topology with machine's configuration Zhao Liu
2024-05-30 10:15 ` [RFC v2 6/7] i386/pc: Support cache topology in -smp for PC machine Zhao Liu
2024-05-30 10:15 ` [RFC v2 7/7] qemu-options: Add the cache topology description of -smp Zhao Liu
2024-06-04  9:29 ` [RFC v2 0/7] Introduce SMP Cache Topology Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-04 15:31   ` Zhao Liu

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