From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <eduardo@habkost.net>,
Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
Philippe Mathieu-Daude <philmd@linaro.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 08/26] migration: vmstate_info_void_ptr
Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 14:21:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZlYgo0UupFdQJ95L@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f0d4b6af-a3eb-451d-b131-62addb72f3ef@oracle.com>
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:10:16AM -0400, Steven Sistare wrote:
> On 5/27/2024 2:31 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 08:55:17AM -0700, Steve Sistare wrote:
> > > Define VMSTATE_VOID_PTR so the value of a pointer (but not its target)
> > > can be saved in the migration stream. This will be needed for CPR.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Steve Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
> >
> > This is really tricky.
> >
> > From a first glance, I don't think migrating a VA is valid at all for
> > migration even if with exec.. and looks insane to me for a cross-process
> > migration, which seems to be allowed to use as a generic VMSD helper.. as
> > VA is the address space barrier for different processes and I think it
> > normally even apply to generic execve(), and we're trying to jailbreak for
> > some reason..
> >
> > It definitely won't work for any generic migration as sizeof(void*) can be
> > different afaict between hosts, e.g. 32bit -> 64bit migrations.
> >
> > Some description would be really helpful in this commit message,
> > e.g. explain the users and why. Do we need to poison that for generic VMSD
> > use (perhaps with prefixed underscores)? I think I'll need to read on the
> > rest to tell..
>
> Short answer: we never dereference the void* in the new process. And must not.
>
> Longer answer:
>
> During CPR for vfio, each mapped DMA region is re-registered in the new
> process using the new VA. The ioctl to re-register identifies the mapping
> by IOVA and length.
>
> The same requirement holds for CPR of iommufd devices. However, in the
> iommufd framework, IOVA does not uniquely identify a dma mapping, and we
> need to use the old VA as the unique identifier. The new process
> re-registers each mapping, passing the old VA and new VA to the kernel.
> The old VA is never dereferenced in the new process, we just need its value.
>
> I suspected that the void* which must not be dereferenced might make people
> uncomfortable. I have an older version of my code which adds a uint64_t
> field to RAMBlock for recording and migrating the old VA. The saving and
> loading code is slightly less elegant, but no big deal. Would you prefer
> that?
I see, thanks for explaining. Yes that sounds better to me. Re the
ugliness: is that about a pre_save() plus one extra uint64_t field? In
that case it looks better comparing to migrating "void*".
I'm trying to read some context on the vaddr remap thing from you, and I
found this:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/Y90bvBnrvRAcEQ%2F%2F@nvidia.com/
So it will work with iommufd now? Meanwhile, what's the status for mdev?
Looks like it isn't supported yet for both.
Thanks,
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-28 18:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-29 15:55 [PATCH V1 00/26] Live update: cpr-exec Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 01/26] oslib: qemu_clear_cloexec Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 23:27 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-07 8:56 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-07 13:54 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 02/26] vl: helper to request re-exec Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 03/26] migration: SAVEVM_FOREACH Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 23:17 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:27 ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-27 18:14 ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 04/26] migration: delete unused parameter mis Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 21:50 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:02 ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 05/26] migration: precreate vmstate Steve Sistare
2024-05-07 21:02 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:28 ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-24 13:56 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:16 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:09 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 18:39 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:04 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 06/26] migration: precreate vmstate for exec Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 23:34 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:28 ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-13 21:21 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 07/26] migration: VMStateId Steve Sistare
2024-05-07 21:03 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:20 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:10 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-28 17:44 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-29 17:30 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 18:53 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:11 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 18:03 ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 08/26] migration: vmstate_info_void_ptr Steve Sistare
2024-05-07 21:33 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:31 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:10 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-28 18:21 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-05-29 17:30 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 09/26] migration: vmstate_register_named Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 14:19 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-09 14:32 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:29 ` Steven Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 10/26] migration: vmstate_unregister_named Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 11/26] migration: vmstate_register at init time Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 12/26] migration: vmstate factory object Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 13/26] physmem: ram_block_create Steve Sistare
2024-05-13 18:37 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:30 ` Steven Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 14/26] physmem: hoist guest_memfd creation Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 15/26] physmem: hoist host memory allocation Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 16/26] physmem: set ram block idstr earlier Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 17/26] machine: memfd-alloc option Steve Sistare
2024-05-28 21:12 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-29 17:31 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 19:14 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:11 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 18:14 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-31 19:32 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-06-03 21:48 ` Peter Xu
2024-06-04 7:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-04 15:58 ` Peter Xu
2024-06-04 16:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-04 16:41 ` Peter Xu
2024-06-04 17:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-03 10:17 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-03 11:59 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 18/26] migration: cpr-exec-args parameter Steve Sistare
2024-05-02 12:23 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-05-02 16:00 ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-21 8:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 19/26] physmem: preserve ram blocks for cpr Steve Sistare
2024-05-28 21:44 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-29 17:31 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 19:25 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:12 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 18:39 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-31 19:32 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-06-03 22:29 ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 20/26] migration: cpr-exec mode Steve Sistare
2024-05-02 12:23 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-05-02 16:00 ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-03 6:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-05-21 8:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-24 14:58 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:54 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 21/26] migration: migrate_add_blocker_mode Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 17:47 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 22/26] migration: ram block cpr-exec blockers Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:01 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:29 ` Steven Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 23/26] migration: misc " Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:05 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-24 12:40 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 19:02 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 24/26] seccomp: cpr-exec blocker Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:16 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-10 7:54 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-13 19:29 ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-21 7:14 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 25/26] migration: fix mismatched GPAs during cpr-exec Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:39 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 26/26] migration: only-migratable-modes Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 19:14 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:48 ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-13 21:57 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-21 8:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 16:13 ` cpr-exec doc (was Re: [PATCH V1 00/26] Live update: cpr-exec) Steven Sistare
2024-05-02 18:15 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-20 18:30 ` [PATCH V1 00/26] Live update: cpr-exec Steven Sistare
2024-05-20 22:28 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-21 2:31 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-21 11:46 ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-27 17:45 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:10 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-28 16:42 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:17 ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 19:23 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-24 13:02 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-24 14:07 ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-27 18:07 ` Peter Xu
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