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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daude <philmd@linaro.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 05/26] migration: precreate vmstate
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 14:39:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zld2ZqscwwJg7fkE@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <daca5ee5-87a7-4a07-8161-d5e133c9443d@oracle.com>

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:09:49AM -0400, Steven Sistare wrote:
> On 5/27/2024 2:16 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 08:55:14AM -0700, Steve Sistare wrote:
> > > Provide the VMStateDescription precreate field to mark objects that must
> > > be loaded on the incoming side before devices have been created, because
> > > they provide properties that will be needed at creation time.  They will
> > > be saved to and loaded from their own QEMUFile, via
> > > qemu_savevm_precreate_save and qemu_savevm_precreate_load, but these
> > > functions are not yet called in this patch.  Allow them to be called
> > > before or after normal migration is active, when current_migration and
> > > current_incoming are not valid.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Steve Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
> > > ---
> > >   include/migration/vmstate.h |  6 ++++
> > >   migration/savevm.c          | 69 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
> > >   migration/savevm.h          |  3 ++
> > >   3 files changed, 73 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/include/migration/vmstate.h b/include/migration/vmstate.h
> > > index 294d2d8..4691334 100644
> > > --- a/include/migration/vmstate.h
> > > +++ b/include/migration/vmstate.h
> > > @@ -198,6 +198,12 @@ struct VMStateDescription {
> > >        * a QEMU_VM_SECTION_START section.
> > >        */
> > >       bool early_setup;
> > > +
> > > +    /*
> > > +     * Send/receive this object in the precreate migration stream.
> > > +     */
> > > +    bool precreate;
> > > +
> > >       int version_id;
> > >       int minimum_version_id;
> > >       MigrationPriority priority;
> > > diff --git a/migration/savevm.c b/migration/savevm.c
> > > index 9789823..a30bcd9 100644
> > > --- a/migration/savevm.c
> > > +++ b/migration/savevm.c
> > > @@ -239,6 +239,7 @@ static SaveState savevm_state = {
> > >   #define SAVEVM_FOREACH(se, entry)                                    \
> > >       QTAILQ_FOREACH(se, &savevm_state.handlers, entry)                \
> > > +        if (!se->vmsd || !se->vmsd->precreate)
> > >   #define SAVEVM_FOREACH_ALL(se, entry)                                \
> > >       QTAILQ_FOREACH(se, &savevm_state.handlers, entry)
> > > @@ -1006,13 +1007,19 @@ static void save_section_header(QEMUFile *f, SaveStateEntry *se,
> > >       }
> > >   }
> > > +static bool send_section_footer(SaveStateEntry *se)
> > > +{
> > > +    return (se->vmsd && se->vmsd->precreate) ||
> > > +           migrate_get_current()->send_section_footer;
> > > +}
> > 
> > Does the precreate vmsd "require" the footer?  Or it should also work?
> > IMHO it's less optimal to bind features without good reasons.
> 
> It is not required.  However, IMO we should not treat send-section-footer as
> a fungible feature.  It is strictly an improvement, as was added to catch
> misformated sections.  It is only registered as a feature for backwards
> compatibility with qemu 2.3 and xen.
> 
> For a brand new data stream such as precreate, where we are not constrained
> by backwards compatibility, we should unconditionally use the better protocol,
> and always send the footer.

I see your point, but I still don't think we should mangle these things.
It makes future justification harder on whether section footer should be
sent.

Take example of whatever new feature added for migration like mapped-ram,
we might also want to enforce it by adding "return migrate_mapped_ram() ||
..." but it means we keep growing this with no benefit.

What you worry on "what if this is turned off" isn't a real one: nobody
will turn it off!  We started to deprecate machines, and I had a feeling
it will be enforced at some point by default.

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-29 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-29 15:55 [PATCH V1 00/26] Live update: cpr-exec Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 01/26] oslib: qemu_clear_cloexec Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 23:27   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-07  8:56     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-07 13:54       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 02/26] vl: helper to request re-exec Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 03/26] migration: SAVEVM_FOREACH Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 23:17   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:27     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-27 18:14       ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 04/26] migration: delete unused parameter mis Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 21:50   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:02   ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 05/26] migration: precreate vmstate Steve Sistare
2024-05-07 21:02   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:28     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-24 13:56   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:16   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:09     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 18:39       ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-05-30 17:04         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 06/26] migration: precreate vmstate for exec Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 23:34   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:28     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-13 21:21       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 07/26] migration: VMStateId Steve Sistare
2024-05-07 21:03   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:20   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:10     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-28 17:44       ` Peter Xu
2024-05-29 17:30         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 18:53           ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:11             ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 18:03               ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 08/26] migration: vmstate_info_void_ptr Steve Sistare
2024-05-07 21:33   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:31   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:10     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-28 18:21       ` Peter Xu
2024-05-29 17:30         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 09/26] migration: vmstate_register_named Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 14:19   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-09 14:32     ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:29       ` Steven Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 10/26] migration: vmstate_unregister_named Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 11/26] migration: vmstate_register at init time Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 12/26] migration: vmstate factory object Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 13/26] physmem: ram_block_create Steve Sistare
2024-05-13 18:37   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:30     ` Steven Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 14/26] physmem: hoist guest_memfd creation Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 15/26] physmem: hoist host memory allocation Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 16/26] physmem: set ram block idstr earlier Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 17/26] machine: memfd-alloc option Steve Sistare
2024-05-28 21:12   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-29 17:31     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 19:14       ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:11         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 18:14           ` Peter Xu
2024-05-31 19:32             ` Steven Sistare via
2024-06-03 21:48               ` Peter Xu
2024-06-04  7:13                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-04 15:58                   ` Peter Xu
2024-06-04 16:14                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-04 16:41                       ` Peter Xu
2024-06-04 17:16                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-03 10:17       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-03 11:59         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 18/26] migration: cpr-exec-args parameter Steve Sistare
2024-05-02 12:23   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-05-02 16:00     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-21  8:13   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 19/26] physmem: preserve ram blocks for cpr Steve Sistare
2024-05-28 21:44   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-29 17:31     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 19:25       ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:12         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 18:39           ` Peter Xu
2024-05-31 19:32             ` Steven Sistare via
2024-06-03 22:29               ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 20/26] migration: cpr-exec mode Steve Sistare
2024-05-02 12:23   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-05-02 16:00     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-03  6:26       ` Markus Armbruster
2024-05-21  8:20   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-24 14:58   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:54     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 21/26] migration: migrate_add_blocker_mode Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 17:47   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 22/26] migration: ram block cpr-exec blockers Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:01   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:29     ` Steven Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 23/26] migration: misc " Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:05   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-24 12:40   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 19:02     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 24/26] seccomp: cpr-exec blocker Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:16   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-10  7:54   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-13 19:29     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-21  7:14       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 25/26] migration: fix mismatched GPAs during cpr-exec Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:39   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 26/26] migration: only-migratable-modes Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 19:14   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:48     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-13 21:57       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-21  8:05   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 16:13 ` cpr-exec doc (was Re: [PATCH V1 00/26] Live update: cpr-exec) Steven Sistare
2024-05-02 18:15   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-20 18:30 ` [PATCH V1 00/26] Live update: cpr-exec Steven Sistare
2024-05-20 22:28   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-21  2:31     ` Peter Xu
2024-05-21 11:46       ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-27 17:45         ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:10           ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-28 16:42             ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:17               ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 19:23                 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-24 13:02 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-24 14:07   ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-27 18:07 ` Peter Xu

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