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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com,
	Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>, Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 18/18] migration/ram: Add direct-io support to precopy file migration
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 14:27:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZmnoeEKhvxx8rxu5@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zmnlt0jUx2o1MEgy@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 07:15:19PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> IIUC, with the "fixed-ram" feature, the on-disk format of a saved VM
> should end up the same whether we're using traditional migration, or
> multifd migration. Use of multifd is simply an optimization that lets
> us write RAM in parallel to the file, with direct-io further optimizing.
> 
> There's also a clear break with libvirt between the existing on-disk
> format libvirt uses, and the new fixed-ram format. So we have no backwards
> compatibilty concerns added from multifd, beyond what we already have to
> figure out when deciding on use of 'fixed-ram'. 
> 
> Thus I believe there is no downside to always using multifd for save
> images with fixed-ram, even if we only want nchannels=1.

That sounds good.

Just to double check with all of us: so we allow mapped-ram to be used in
whatever case when !dio, however we restrict dio only when with multifd=on,
am I right?

I'd personally like that, and it also pretty much matches with what we have
with tcp zerocopy send too. After all they're really similar stuff to me on
pinning implications and locked_vm restrictions.  It's just that the target
of the data movement is different here, either to NIC, or to/from a file.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-12 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-23 19:05 [PATCH v2 00/18] migration/mapped-ram: Add direct-io support Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] migration: Fix file migration with fdset Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-24 10:51   ` Prasad Pandit
2024-05-24 12:30     ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-25  6:16       ` Prasad Pandit
2024-05-30 16:11   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-31 14:58     ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-03 10:20   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] tests/qtest/migration: Fix file migration offset check Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-30 16:14   ` Peter Xu
2024-06-03 10:21   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] tests/qtest/migration: Add a precopy file test with fdset Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-30 16:18   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] monitor: Drop monitor_fdset_dup_fd_add() Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-03 10:26   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] monitor: Introduce monitor_fdset_*free Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-30 20:03   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-31 15:01     ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] monitor: Stop removing non-duplicated fds Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-30 21:05   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-31 15:25     ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-31 15:56       ` Peter Xu
2024-06-04 23:40       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2024-06-05 12:31         ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] monitor: Simplify fdset and fd removal Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-31 15:58   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] monitor: Report errors from monitor_fdset_dup_fd_add Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-30 21:08   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] io: Stop using qemu_open_old in channel-file Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-30 21:10   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] migration: Add direct-io parameter Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-30 21:12   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] migration/multifd: Add direct-io support Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-30 21:35   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-31 15:27     ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] tests/qtest/migration: Add tests for file migration with direct-io Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] monitor: fdset: Match against O_DIRECT Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-30 21:41   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-31 15:42     ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-31 15:58       ` Peter Xu
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] migration: Add documentation for fdset with multifd + file Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-04 20:46   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] tests/qtest/migration: Add a test for mapped-ram with passing of fds Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-04 20:51   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] io/channel-file: Add direct-io support Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-03 10:32   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 17/18] migration: Add direct-io helpers Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-23 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 18/18] migration/ram: Add direct-io support to precopy file migration Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-04 20:56   ` Peter Xu
2024-06-07 18:42     ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-07 20:39       ` Jim Fehlig
2024-06-10 16:09       ` Peter Xu
2024-06-10 17:45         ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-10 19:02           ` Peter Xu
2024-06-10 19:07             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-10 20:12             ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-12 18:08               ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-12 18:15                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-12 18:27                   ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-06-12 18:44                     ` Fabiano Rosas

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