From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Manos Pitsidianakis" <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Mads Ynddal" <mads@ynddal.dk>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
"Gustavo Romero" <gustavo.romero@linaro.org>,
"Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>,
rowan.hart@intel.com,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] Add Rust support, implement ARM PL011
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 13:18:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zo0qh51MPlmfFVUP@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfb3mmxZy_cEeUTbuGCN-3Nqs8x8dkGy7Ehyowd9LNbktg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 09:54:43AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 9:38 AM Manos Pitsidianakis
> <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org> wrote:
> > Ah, alright. That wasn't obvious because that e-mail was not directed
> > to me nor did it mention my name :)
>
> Oh, ok. Sorry about that. Generally when I say "we" I include as large
> a part of the community as applicable.
>
> > I do not want to do that, in any case. I do not think it's the right approach.
>
> No problem with that (and in fact I agree, as I'd prefer a speedy
> merge and doing the work on the QEMU master branch); however, we need
> to reach an agreement on that and everybody (including Daniel) needs
> to explain the reason for their position.
>
> Daniel's proposed criteria for merging include:
> - CI integration
> - CI passing for all supported targets (thus lowering the MSRV to 1.63.0)
> - plus any the code changes that were or will be requested during review
>
> That seems to be a pretty high amount of work, and until it's done
> everyone else is unable to contribute, not even in directions
> orthogonal to the above (cross compilation support, less unsafe code,
> porting more devices).
My thought is that the initial merge focuses only on the build system
integration. So that's basically patches 1 + 2 in this series.
IMHO that is small enough that we should be able to demonstrate that
we detect Rust, run bindgen & compile its result, on all our supported
platforms without an unreasonable amount of effort.
> So something has to give: either we decide for
> an early merge, where the code is marked as experimental and disabled
> by default. Personally I think it's fine, the contingency plan is
> simply to "git rm -rf rust/". Or we can keep the above stringent
> requirements for merging, but then I don't see it as a one-person job.
Patch 3, the high level APIs is where I see most of the work and
collaboration being needed, but that doesn't need to be rushed into
the first merge. We would have a "rust" subsystem + maintainer who
would presumably have a staging tree, etc in the normal way we work
and collaborate
With regards,
Daniel
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-04 12:15 [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] Add Rust support, implement ARM PL011 Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/7] build-sys: Add rust feature option Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 14:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/7] rust: add bindgen step as a meson dependency Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 15:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 10:53 ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-09 12:08 ` Peter Maydell
2024-07-09 12:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 13:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-11 21:23 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-07-12 6:14 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-09 14:23 ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-10 15:03 ` Zhao Liu
2024-07-10 14:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-11 8:30 ` Zhao Liu
2024-07-09 14:52 ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-10 8:55 ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/7] rust: add crate to expose bindings and interfaces Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 15:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/7] rust: add PL011 device model Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 16:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/7] .gitattributes: add Rust diff and merge attributes Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-10 8:44 ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/7] DO NOT MERGE: add rustdoc build for gitlab pages Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/7] DO NOT MERGE: replace TYPE_PL011 with x-pl011-rust in arm virt machine Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 16:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] Add Rust support, implement ARM PL011 Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-08 16:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-08 16:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-08 17:12 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-08 18:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-08 18:39 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 18:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 7:38 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-09 7:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 12:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-07-09 16:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 18:02 ` Richard Henderson
2024-07-09 10:34 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
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