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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Manos Pitsidianakis" <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Mads Ynddal" <mads@ynddal.dk>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
	"Gustavo Romero" <gustavo.romero@linaro.org>,
	"Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>,
	rowan.hart@intel.com,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] Add Rust support, implement ARM PL011
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 13:18:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zo0qh51MPlmfFVUP@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfb3mmxZy_cEeUTbuGCN-3Nqs8x8dkGy7Ehyowd9LNbktg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 09:54:43AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 9:38 AM Manos Pitsidianakis
> <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org> wrote:
> > Ah, alright. That wasn't obvious because that e-mail was not directed
> > to me nor did it mention my name :)
> 
> Oh, ok. Sorry about that. Generally when I say "we" I include as large
> a part of the community as applicable.
> 
> > I do not want to do that, in any case. I do not think it's the right approach.
> 
> No problem with that (and in fact I agree, as I'd prefer a speedy
> merge and doing the work on the QEMU master branch); however, we need
> to reach an agreement on that and everybody (including Daniel) needs
> to explain the reason for their position.
> 
> Daniel's proposed criteria for merging include:
> - CI integration
> - CI passing for all supported targets (thus lowering the MSRV to 1.63.0)
> - plus any the code changes that were or will be requested during review
> 
> That seems to be a pretty high amount of work, and until it's done
> everyone else is unable to contribute, not even in directions
> orthogonal to the above (cross compilation support, less unsafe code,
> porting more devices).

My thought is that the initial merge focuses only on the build system
integration. So that's basically patches 1 + 2 in this series.

IMHO that is small enough that we should be able to demonstrate that
we detect Rust, run bindgen & compile its result, on all our supported
platforms without an unreasonable amount of effort.

>                         So something has to give: either we decide for
> an early merge, where the code is marked as experimental and disabled
> by default. Personally I think it's fine, the contingency plan is
> simply to "git rm -rf rust/". Or we can keep the above stringent
> requirements for merging, but then I don't see it as a one-person job.

Patch 3, the high level APIs is where I see most of the work and
collaboration being needed, but that doesn't need to be rushed into
the first merge. We would have a "rust" subsystem + maintainer who
would presumably have a staging tree, etc in the normal way we work
and collaborate

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-09 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-04 12:15 [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] Add Rust support, implement ARM PL011 Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/7] build-sys: Add rust feature option Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 14:49   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/7] rust: add bindgen step as a meson dependency Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 15:07   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 10:53   ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-09 12:08     ` Peter Maydell
2024-07-09 12:28       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 13:00         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-11 21:23           ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-07-12  6:14             ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-09 14:23         ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-10 15:03         ` Zhao Liu
2024-07-10 14:50           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-11  8:30             ` Zhao Liu
2024-07-09 14:52     ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-10  8:55   ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/7] rust: add crate to expose bindings and interfaces Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 15:40   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/7] rust: add PL011 device model Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 16:07   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/7] .gitattributes: add Rust diff and merge attributes Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-10  8:44   ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/7] DO NOT MERGE: add rustdoc build for gitlab pages Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/7] DO NOT MERGE: replace TYPE_PL011 with x-pl011-rust in arm virt machine Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 16:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] Add Rust support, implement ARM PL011 Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-08 16:33   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-08 16:55     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-08 17:12       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-08 18:34         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-08 18:39           ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 18:48             ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09  7:38               ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-09  7:54                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 12:18                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-07-09 16:51                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 18:02                       ` Richard Henderson
2024-07-09 10:34             ` Manos Pitsidianakis

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