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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Manos Pitsidianakis" <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Mads Ynddal" <mads@ynddal.dk>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
	"Gustavo Romero" <gustavo.romero@linaro.org>,
	"Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>,
	rowan.hart@intel.com,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] Add Rust support, implement ARM PL011
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 17:33:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZowUyFX7zcK1FvuG@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8dfd1047-436d-4157-83cb-9cad399544fe@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 06:26:22PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 7/4/24 14:15, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote:
> > Changes from v3->v4:
> > - Add rust-specific files to .gitattributes
> > - Added help text to scripts/cargo_wrapper.py arguments (thanks Stephan)
> > - Split bindings separate crate
> > - Add declarative macros for symbols exported to QEMU to said crate
> > - Lowered MSRV to 1.77.2
> > - Removed auto-download and install of bindgen-cli
> > - Fixed re-compilation of Rust objects in case they are missing from
> >    filesystem
> > - Fixed optimized builds by adding #[used] (thanks Pierrick for the help
> >    debugging this)
> 
> I think the largest issue is that I'd rather have a single cargo build using
> a virtual manifest, because my hunch is that it'd be the easiest path
> towards Kconfig integration.  But it's better to do this after merge, as the
> changes are pretty large.  It's also independent from any other changes
> targeted at removing unsafe code, so no need to hold back on merging.
> 
> Other comments I made that should however be addressed before merging, from
> most to least important:
> 
> - TODO comments when the code is doing potential undefined behavior
> 
> - module structure should IMO resemble the C part of the tree
> 
> - only generate bindings.rs.inc once
> 
> - a couple abstractions that I'd like to have now: a trait to store the CStr
> corresponding to the structs, and one to generate all-zero structs without
> having to type "unsafe { MaybeUninit::zeroed().assume_init() }"
> 
> - I pointed out a couple lints that are too broad and should be enabled
> per-file, even if right now it's basically all files that include them.
> 
> - add support for --cargo and CARGO environment variables (if my patch works
> without too much hassle)
> 
> - I'd like to use ctor instead of non-portable linker magic, and the cstr
> crate instead of CStr statics or c""
> 
> - please check if -Wl,--whole-archive can be replaced with link_whole:
> 
> - probably, until Rust is enabled by default we should treat dependencies as
> a moving target and not commit Cargo.lock files.  In the meanwhile we can
> discuss how to handle them.
> 
> And a few aesthetic changes on top of this.

This series is still missing changes to enable build on all targets
during CI, including cross-compiles, to prove that we're doing the
correct thing on all our targetted platforms. That's a must have
before considering it suitable for merge.

I also believe we should default to enabling rust toolchain by
default in configure, and require and explicit --without-rust
to disable it, *despite* it not technically being a mandatory
feature....yet.

This is to give users a clear message that Rust is likely to
become a fundamental part of QEMU, so they need to give feedback
if they hit any problems / have use cases we've not anticipated
that are problematic wrt Rust.

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-08 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-04 12:15 [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] Add Rust support, implement ARM PL011 Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/7] build-sys: Add rust feature option Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 14:49   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/7] rust: add bindgen step as a meson dependency Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 15:07   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 10:53   ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-09 12:08     ` Peter Maydell
2024-07-09 12:28       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 13:00         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-11 21:23           ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-07-12  6:14             ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-09 14:23         ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-10 15:03         ` Zhao Liu
2024-07-10 14:50           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-11  8:30             ` Zhao Liu
2024-07-09 14:52     ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-10  8:55   ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/7] rust: add crate to expose bindings and interfaces Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 15:40   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/7] rust: add PL011 device model Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 16:07   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/7] .gitattributes: add Rust diff and merge attributes Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-10  8:44   ` Alex Bennée
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/7] DO NOT MERGE: add rustdoc build for gitlab pages Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-04 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/7] DO NOT MERGE: replace TYPE_PL011 with x-pl011-rust in arm virt machine Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 16:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] Add Rust support, implement ARM PL011 Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-08 16:33   ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-07-08 16:55     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-08 17:12       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-08 18:34         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-08 18:39           ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-08 18:48             ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09  7:38               ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-07-09  7:54                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 12:18                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-09 16:51                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-09 18:02                       ` Richard Henderson
2024-07-09 10:34             ` Manos Pitsidianakis

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