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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Maciej S. Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>
Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Wang, Lei" <lei4.wang@intel.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avihai Horon <avihaih@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 6/7] migration/multifd: Move payload storage out of the channel parameters
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 15:00:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZpgUvsiCB4oP3RLT@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53d0ddf0-07f7-430e-a424-b4fcc38a16d0@maciej.szmigiero.name>

On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 10:10:25PM +0200, Maciej S. Szmigiero wrote:
> > > > > The comment I removed is slightly misleading to me too, because right now
> > > > > active_slot contains the data hasn't yet been delivered to multifd, so
> > > > > we're "putting it back to free list" not because of it's free, but because
> > > > > we know it won't get used until the multifd send thread consumes it
> > > > > (because before that the thread will be busy, and we won't use the buffer
> > > > > if so in upcoming send()s).
> > > > > 
> > > > > And then when I'm looking at this again, I think maybe it's a slight
> > > > > overkill, and maybe we can still keep the "opaque data" managed by multifd.
> > > > > One reason might be that I don't expect the "opaque data" payload keep
> > > > > growing at all: it should really be either RAM or device state as I
> > > > > commented elsewhere in a relevant thread, after all it's a thread model
> > > > > only for migration purpose to move vmstates..
> > > > 
> > > > Some amount of flexibility needs to be baked in. For instance, what
> > > > about the handshake procedure? Don't we want to use multifd threads to
> > > > put some information on the wire for that as well?
> > > 
> > > Is this an orthogonal question?
> > 
> > I don't think so. You say the payload data should be either RAM or
> > device state. I'm asking what other types of data do we want the multifd
> > channel to transmit and suggesting we need to allow room for the
> > addition of that, whatever it is. One thing that comes to mind that is
> > neither RAM or device state is some form of handshake or capabilities
> > negotiation.
> 
> The RFC version of my multifd device state transfer patch set introduced
> a new migration channel header (by Avihai) for clean and extensible
> migration channel handshaking but people didn't like so it was removed in v1.

Hmm, I'm not sure this is relevant to the context of discussion here, but I
confess I didn't notice the per-channel header thing in the previous RFC
series.  Link is here:

https://lore.kernel.org/r/636cec92eb801f13ba893de79d4872f5d8342097.1713269378.git.maciej.szmigiero@oracle.com

Maciej, if you want, you can split that out of the seriess. So far it looks
like a good thing with/without how VFIO tackles it.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-17 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-20 21:21 [RFC PATCH 0/7] migration/multifd: Introduce storage slots Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-20 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] migration/multifd: Reduce access to p->pages Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-21 14:42   ` Peter Xu
2024-06-20 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] migration/multifd: Pass in MultiFDPages_t to file_write_ramblock_iov Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-20 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] migration/multifd: Replace p->pages with an opaque pointer Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-20 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] migration/multifd: Move pages accounting into multifd_send_zero_page_detect() Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-20 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] migration/multifd: Isolate ram pages packet data Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-19 14:40   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-20 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] migration/multifd: Move payload storage out of the channel parameters Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-27  3:27   ` Wang, Lei
2024-06-27 14:40     ` Peter Xu
2024-06-27 15:17       ` Peter Xu
2024-07-10 16:10       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-10 19:10         ` Peter Xu
2024-07-10 20:16           ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-10 21:55             ` Peter Xu
2024-07-11 14:12               ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-11 16:11                 ` Peter Xu
2024-07-11 19:37                   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-11 20:27                     ` Peter Xu
2024-07-11 21:12                       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-11 22:06                         ` Peter Xu
2024-07-12 12:44                           ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-12 15:37                             ` Peter Xu
2024-07-18 19:39                   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-18 21:12                     ` Peter Xu
2024-07-18 21:27                       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-18 21:52                         ` Peter Xu
2024-07-18 22:32                           ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-19 14:04                             ` Peter Xu
2024-07-19 16:54                               ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-19 17:58                                 ` Peter Xu
2024-07-19 21:30                                   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-16 20:10             ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-07-17 19:00               ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-07-17 21:07                 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-07-17 21:30                   ` Peter Xu
2024-06-20 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] migration/multifd: Hide multifd slots implementation Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-21 14:44 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] migration/multifd: Introduce storage slots Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-06-21 15:04   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-06-21 15:31     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-06-21 15:56       ` Peter Xu
2024-06-21 17:40         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-06-21 20:54           ` Peter Xu
2024-06-23 20:25             ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-06-23 20:45               ` Peter Xu

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