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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Philipp Reisner <philipp.reisner@linbit.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] util: retry open() when it gets interrupted by a signal
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 16:34:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZqpZaZTqC8xvmyEn@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA83zF4Gr3KUDAZMYmwZ7onw0zs=N0HeNkc3mSMF6n_sKQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 04:24:45PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 at 16:21, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 03:32:52PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > > This is why we have the RETRY_ON_EINTR() macro, right?
> > >
> > > Currently we have some places that call qemu_open_old() inside
> > > RETRY_ON_EINTR -- we should decide whether we want to
> > > handle EINTR inside the qemu_open family of functions,
> > > or make the caller deal with it, and put the macro uses
> > > in the right place consistently.
> >
> > It is incredibly arbitrary where we use RETRY_ON_EINTR, which I think
> > points towards it being a sub-optimal solution to the general problem.
> 
> Agreed (and agreed that SA_RESTART is the usual approach to
> avoid this mess). Partly I just vaguely recall discussions
> about this back when we added/improved the RETRY_ON_EINTR
> macro in the first place: maybe there's a reason we have it
> still...
> 
> > > I agree that it would be nicer if we could use SA_RESTART,
> > > but presumably there's a reason why we don't. (At any
> > > rate code that's shared with the user-mode emulation
> > > has to be EINTR-resistant, because we can't force the
> > > user-mode guest code to avoid registering signal handlers
> > > that aren't SA_RESTART.)
> >
> > For user mode emulation isn't it valid to just propagage the
> > EINTR back up to the application, since EINTR is a valid errno
> > they have to be willing to handle unless the app has itself
> > use SA_RESTART.
> 
> Yes, that's what we must do for cases where we are doing some
> syscall on behalf of the guest. But for cases where we're
> doing a syscall because of something QEMU itself needs to do,
> we may need to retry, because we might not be in a position
> to be able to back out of what we're doing (or we might not
> even be inside the "handle a guest syscall" codepath at all).

Ah ok, so RETRY_ON_EINTR conceivably makes sense in the linux-user
/ bsd-user code in certain scenarios......but it seems almost every
single use today is in system emulator code !

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-31 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-31 13:25 [PATCH] util: retry open() when it gets interrupted by a signal Philipp Reisner
2024-07-31 14:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-31 14:10 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-31 14:32   ` Peter Maydell
2024-07-31 14:49     ` Philipp Reisner
2024-07-31 15:17     ` [PATCH] util: use RETRY_ON_EINTR() on open() more consistently Philipp Reisner
2024-08-01 12:48       ` [PATCH v3] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-08-02  7:26         ` Philipp Reisner
2024-07-31 15:21     ` [PATCH] util: retry open() when it gets interrupted by a signal Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-31 15:24       ` Peter Maydell
2024-07-31 15:34         ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-07-31 15:34       ` Philipp Reisner

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