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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
Cc: mail@maciej.szmigiero.name,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Avihai Horon" <avihaih@nvidia.com>,
	"Joao Martins" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/17] migration/multifd: Device state transfer support - send side
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:39:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZumiqMiM4NgTdEgA@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5gb1kbg.fsf@suse.de>

On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 03:26:43PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
> The thread-pool approach is being looked at to solve this particular
> problem, but we have also discussed in the past that multifd threads
> themselves should be managed by a thread pool. Will we add this
> requirement to what is being done now? Otherwise, don't we risk having
> an implementation that doesn't serve the rest of multifd? Do we even
> know what the requirements are? Keep in mind that we're already not
> modifying the existing ThreadPool, but planning to write a new one.

Multifd currently has below specialties:

  - Multifd thread has 1:1 mapping with iochannels

  - Multifd thread num should be relevant to target bandwidth (e.g., the
    NIC performance)

While for a generic thread pool:

  - Thread has no correlation to any iochannel, but some async cpu
    intensive workloads during migration (either during switchover, or
    maybe even before that?)

  - Thread number should have no correlation to NIC/bandwidth, a sane start
    could be $(nproc), but maybe not..

I don't remember what I was thinking previously, but now it sounds ok to
keep multifd separate as of now to me, because multifd does service a
slightly different purpose (maximum network throughput) v.s. where we want
a pool of threads doing async tasks (which can be anything).

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-17 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-27 17:54 [PATCH v2 00/17] Multifd 🔀 device state transfer support with VFIO consumer Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] vfio/migration: Add save_{iterate, complete_precopy}_started trace events Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-05 13:08   ` [PATCH v2 01/17] vfio/migration: Add save_{iterate,complete_precopy}_started " Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:04     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-11 14:50       ` Avihai Horon
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] migration/ram: Add load start trace event Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-28 18:44   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-28 20:21     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] migration/multifd: Zero p->flags before starting filling a packet Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-28 18:50   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-09 15:41   ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] thread-pool: Add a DestroyNotify parameter to thread_pool_submit{, _aio)() Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] thread-pool: Implement non-AIO (generic) pool support Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-02 22:07   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-03 12:02     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 14:26       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-03 18:14         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 13:55   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-09-03 16:54     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 19:04       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-09-09 16:45         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 18:38           ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 19:12             ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 19:16               ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 19:24                 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] migration: Add save_live_complete_precopy_{begin, end} handlers Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-28 19:03   ` [PATCH v2 06/17] migration: Add save_live_complete_precopy_{begin,end} handlers Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-05 13:45   ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 17:59     ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 18:32       ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 19:08         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 19:32           ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:48             ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 19:47           ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 20:54             ` Peter Xu
2024-09-20 15:22               ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-20 16:08                 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 18:05     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] migration: Add qemu_loadvm_load_state_buffer() and its handler Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 19:05   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-05 14:15   ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:05     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] migration: Add load_finish handler and associated functions Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 19:28   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-05 15:13   ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:05     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 20:03   ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:49     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 21:11       ` Peter Xu
2024-09-20 15:23         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-20 16:45           ` Peter Xu
2024-09-26 22:34             ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-27  0:53               ` Peter Xu
2024-09-30 19:25                 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-30 21:57                   ` Peter Xu
2024-10-01 20:41                     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-10-01 21:30                       ` Peter Xu
2024-10-02 20:11                         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-10-02 21:25                           ` Peter Xu
2024-10-03 20:34                             ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-10-03 21:17                               ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] migration/multifd: Device state transfer support - receive side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 20:22   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-02 20:12     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 14:42       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-03 18:41         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 19:52       ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:49         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-05 16:47   ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:05     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-12  8:13       ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-12 13:52         ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-19 19:59           ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] migration/multifd: Convert multifd_send()::next_channel to atomic Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 18:13   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-02 20:11     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 15:01       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-03 20:04         ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-10 14:13   ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] migration/multifd: Add an explicit MultiFDSendData destructor Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 13:12   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] migration/multifd: Device state transfer support - send side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-29  0:41   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-29 20:03     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 13:02       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-09 19:40         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:50           ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-10 19:48     ` Peter Xu
2024-09-12 18:43       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-13  0:23         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-13 13:21           ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-13 14:19             ` Peter Xu
2024-09-13 15:04               ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-13 15:22                 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-13 18:26                   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-17 15:39                     ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-09-17 17:07                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-09-17 17:50                     ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:51                       ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 19:49       ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 21:17         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-20 15:23           ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-20 17:09             ` Peter Xu
2024-09-10 16:06   ` Peter Xu
2024-09-19 19:49     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-19 21:18       ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] migration/multifd: Add migration_has_device_state_support() Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-30 18:55   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-02 20:11     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-03 15:09       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] migration: Add save_live_complete_precopy_thread handler Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer support - receive side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09  8:55   ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:06     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-12  8:20       ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-12  8:45         ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] vfio/migration: Add x-migration-multifd-transfer VFIO property Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] vfio/migration: Multifd device state transfer support - send side Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-09 11:41   ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-09 18:07     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-09-12  8:26       ` Avihai Horon
2024-09-12  8:57         ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-08-28 20:46 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] Multifd 🔀 device state transfer support with VFIO consumer Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-28 21:58   ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-08-29  0:51     ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-29 20:02       ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2024-10-11 13:58 ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-10-15 21:12   ` Maciej S. Szmigiero

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