From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B19ACF857A for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swJY4-0004NS-8t; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 06:59:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swJY2-0004N6-HG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 06:59:06 -0400 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.129.124]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swJY0-0003H2-PX for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 06:59:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1727953143; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references; bh=ve8SluRQWsJbUb/sHWf136hFfh9On4akHKETqQ/MBbU=; b=ckLKYjDONAeDLxudOZFLIsA/+SqI+ev2PYkr2YfOigwjIeYix2zHCe1S8qwaWu85IhxZZn G8Jgic1ttQ7tmbJe1k0ZhrfBN5CDGP/OqxuUraFhF2vIrOmFBhJYhP5eims662iyZCWJ47 +zEKXDQqKC73iyGYzJEkUcufKKWD41U= Received: from mx-prod-mc-01.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (ec2-54-186-198-63.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com [54.186.198.63]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-645-dGSBT1kKPYqBgXTHWC2KAA-1; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 06:58:58 -0400 X-MC-Unique: dGSBT1kKPYqBgXTHWC2KAA-1 Received: from mx-prod-int-02.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (mx-prod-int-02.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com [10.30.177.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx-prod-mc-01.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8B34195609E; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.42.28.46]) by mx-prod-int-02.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 348901956086; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 11:58:27 +0100 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= To: Warner Losh Cc: Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= , qemu-devel , Manos Pitsidianakis , Hanna Reitz , Peter Maydell , pkg-qemu-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org, Michael Tokarev , ncopa@alpinelinux.org, bofh@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org, virtualization@gentoo.org, dilfridge@gentoo.org, hi@alyssa.is, edolstra+nixpkgs@gmail.com, brad@comstyle.com, Paolo Bonzini , Markus Armbruster , Thomas Huth , Stefan Hajnoczi , dvzrv@archlinux.org, anatol.pomozov@gmail.com, Miroslav Rezanina Subject: Re: Rust BoF and maintainer minutes and planning the roadmap to Rust Message-ID: References: <871q16fq9c.fsf@draig.linaro.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.12 (2023-09-09) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.0 on 10.30.177.15 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.129.124; envelope-from=berrange@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -21 X-Spam_score: -2.2 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.143, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 02:53:08AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > commitment by the Rust community is troubling. Even more troubling because > rust still uses the old FreeBSD 11 compat syscalls, despite upgraded > being available for years at this point (though maybe this info has changed > in the last month or two, the years long delay in moving off the interfaces > that the FreeBSD project obsoleted about 8 years ago is troubling on its > own). Is this problem resolved by this change updating to FreeBSD 12 ABI: https://github.com/rust-lang/libc/pull/3434 Or is there more beyond that which remains an issue ? Also what's the best source of truth about Rust support in FreeBSD eg I see this: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Rust Reports i386, amd64, armv6, armv7, aarch64, power64, power64le and riscv64 and then this https://www.freshports.org/lang/rust but doesn't say anything about riscv64, and armv6/i386 is listed as "N/A" for FreeBSD 15 - are those arches no longer supported in 15 ? power64le is outdated there compared to other arches With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|