From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2773CEACC5 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1svdXN-0005uv-5g; Tue, 01 Oct 2024 10:07:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1svdXK-0005qp-WC for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2024 10:07:35 -0400 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.129.124]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1svdX3-0001WO-7x for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2024 10:07:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1727791635; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references; bh=ujznXKr0TQUiECfO3RLoKbOSZFj5ptk2IB14cdGSCGA=; b=Wcc4bwdF/O7bGt9fwmBwetgDr5vz2cLeD4Uny9t8VaXjnd+ApNpWnNI+QKun7xRjgv0sld G5gpjNfquUIUNubvB2FfU3jPDqKwz3KW7tHym4w3STSneH8ntB5mCm7LeYog5evJsYzyxE JZsc4Ts3FkiCOAs3A3CxgxUz2iuiDcE= Received: from mx-prod-mc-02.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (ec2-54-186-198-63.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com [54.186.198.63]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-206-haCopkNrPlmvOsbuk_nZYw-1; Tue, 01 Oct 2024 04:48:46 -0400 X-MC-Unique: haCopkNrPlmvOsbuk_nZYw-1 Received: from mx-prod-int-02.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (unknown [10.30.177.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx-prod-mc-02.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83F9B19626FE; Tue, 1 Oct 2024 08:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.42.28.186]) by mx-prod-int-02.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15DE11979063; Tue, 1 Oct 2024 08:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 09:48:40 +0100 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= To: Paolo Bonzini Cc: John Snow , qemu-devel , Peter Maydell , Markus Armbruster Subject: Re: Minimum sphinx version? Message-ID: References: <959ad3a2-505b-4d43-878f-027e359e8d54@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <959ad3a2-505b-4d43-878f-027e359e8d54@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.12 (2023-09-09) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.0 on 10.30.177.15 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.129.124; envelope-from=berrange@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -21 X-Spam_score: -2.2 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.144, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Tue, Oct 01, 2024 at 10:28:50AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 9/30/24 19:16, John Snow wrote: > > The current reality is that Sphinx 3.4.3 is our minimum because RHEL 9 > > offers that as the distro package and I have not dared bump our version > > beyond that for fear of disrupting our ability to build docs on RHEL 9 > > without internet. > > > > What I'd like to ask is: How adamant are we that we can build docs on > > older platforms? Do we consider it part of our platform promise? Can we > > bump Sphinx to a slightly newer version at the expense of offline doc > > builds for RHEL 9? > > Could we stop building QMP docs, if Sphinx is too old? While at the same > time keeping the same 3.x version and the ability to build man pages, which > is the really important part. I'm curious how much of SPhinx we actually leverage when generatnug man pages ? Our content is primarily RST format. Would it be feasible to just use rst2man for man pages, and just use sphinx for the HTML docs ? As I said in my other email though, IMHO, if the distro sphinx is too old we should just auto-install the newer version that we need, as we have set a precedent with meson. That way there's no need to disable docs building With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|